Indiana Spielberg and His Jewish Problem

The American Prowler ^ | 12/21/2005 | Yale Kramer

[veronica]

What a depressing article. Yet important to read. I have long had a debate going with my brother, who thinks Spielberg is a crappy director, who makes mushy, unimportant films. I have to concede now that he was right all along. But from the sounds of it, this is a film only a Jew-hater could make, which goes beyond mush.

The notion of the strong Jew fighting back terrifies some Jews, for reasons I will never understand. In their world Jews must always be conciliatory, acquiescent, and wracked with guilt. But that mindset was never part of my Jewish education.

Kushner is clearly the force behind this farce, but Spielberg hired him. Any goodwill Spielberg garnered after Schindler's List he has now forfeited. I'll say it again, a few Jews being saved by a Gentile apparently get Spielberg's empathy, but a nation of Jews refusing to be the victims of the new Nazis appalls him, as he sits in his vast estate in Pacific Palisades, or wherever he's hunkered down in his fantasy world these days.

I guess I need to see this film, to talk about it in a more informed manner, but I don't relish it. I doubt I'll be able to sit through it, if Spielberg's comments in Time are a true indication of what animated him in the making of the film.

[william clark]

I think the best response to Spielberg's tunnelvision is for people to take the money they might spend on a ticket to "Munich" and instead buy the DVD of "One Day in September" and/or "21 Hours at Munich," both of which came out this week.

[montag813]

Time magazine suggests, "Everyone in the movie is human, you feel for them all."

Thank you Steven for making people more sympathetic to vicious terrorists who rip families apart.

Spielberg is a piece of shit.

[70times7]

The biggest enemy in the region is intransigence

OH PUH-LEEEEZZZZ! Open your eyes Spielberg!

The Palestinians, particularly Arafat, repeatedly offered concessions in public yet repeatedly called for Israel’s' destruction in the Arab world. This is the same Arab world that offered Palestine NOTHING but support for terror against Israel and any of Israel’s allies. At the same time the two greatest contributors of funds for the building of Palestinian infrastructure and for relief were the US and Israel. These funds were diverted to keep Arafat and others rich and comfy and the Palestinian people destitute and angry at Israel. Now Israel has given more land while Iran again calls for their destruction. And we are to pay money to Spielberg and hollyweird to be lied to? Any Palestinian grieving that resulted from the murders in Munich was brought about by Palestinians. Sell your scheiße elsewhere Spielberg.

[dennisw]

 

 

o Jurassic Park #1
o Minority Report
o Catch Me if You Can

Are the only Spielberg productions I have seen and wanted to see. They were good movies
I won't be seeing "Munich" unless I catch a few minutes of it on TV sometime in the future

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Date of birth (location) 18 December 1946 Cincinnati, Ohio, USA   Mini biography Without a doubt one of the most influential film personalities in the... (show more)   Sometimes Credited As: Steve Spielberg Steven Spielrock

Filmography as: Producer, Director, Miscellaneous Crew, Writer, Actor, Editor, Second Unit Director or Assistant Director, Cinematographer, Visual Effects, Himself, Archive Footage, Notable TV Guest Appearances

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1. "The Pacific War" (2006) (mini) TV Series (announced) (executive producer)
2. When Worlds Collide (2006) (announced) (producer)
3. Untitled Ukrainian Holocaust Project (2007) (announced) (executive producer)
4. Untitled Transformers Film (2007) (pre-production) (executive producer)
5. Untitled Steven Spielberg/Abraham Lincoln Project (2007) (pre-production) (producer)
6. Jurassic Park IV (2006) (pre-production) (executive producer)
7. The New Girl (2005) (pre-production) (executive producer)
8. Flags of Our Fathers (2006) (post-production) (producer)
9. Monster House (2006) (post-production) (executive producer)
10. The Talisman (2005) (released) (executive producer)
    
    
11. Munich (2005) (producer)
12. Memoirs of a Geisha (2005) (producer)
13. The Legend of Zorro (2005) (executive producer)
14. "Into the West" (2005) (mini) TV Series (executive producer)
15. Dan Finnerty & the Dan Band: I Am Woman (2005) (TV) (executive producer)
16. The Terminal (2004) (producer)
17. Voices from the List (2004) (V) (executive producer)
18. Burma Bridge Busters (2003) (TV) (executive producer)
19. Catch Me If You Can (2002) (producer)
20. "Taken" (2002/I) (mini) TV Series (executive producer)
    ... aka Steven Spielberg Presents Taken (USA: complete title)
21. Men in Black II (2002) (executive producer)
    ... aka MIB 2 (USA: promotional abbreviation)
    ... aka MIIB (USA: promotional abbreviation)
22. Price for Peace (2002) (executive producer)
23. "Broken Silence" (2002) (mini) TV Series (executive producer)
24. We Stand Alone Together (2001) (TV) (executive producer)
    ... aka We Stand Alone Together: The Men of Easy Company (Europe: English title: DVD title)
25. "Band of Brothers" (2001) (mini) TV Series (executive producer)
26. Jurassic Park III (2001) (executive producer)
    ... aka JP3 (USA: promotional abbreviation)
27. Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001) (producer)
    ... aka A.I. Artificial Intelligence (USA: poster title)
28. Evolution (2001) (executive producer) (uncredited)
29. Shrek (2001) (executive producer) (uncredited)
30. Semper Fi (2001) (TV) (executive producer)
31. Shooting War (2000) (TV) (executive producer)
    ... aka Shooting War: World War II Cameramen (USA: video title)
32. A Holocaust szemei (2000) (executive producer)
    ... aka Eyes of the Holocaust (International: English title) (USA)
    
    
33. Wakko's Wish (1999) (V) (executive producer) (uncredited)
    ... aka Steven Spielberg Presents Animaniacs: Wakko's Wish (USA: complete title)
34. The Haunting (1999) (executive producer) (uncredited)
    ... aka Maldición, La (USA: Spanish title)
35. The Last Days (1998) (executive producer)
36. Saving Private Ryan (1998) (producer)
37. The Mask of Zorro (1998) (executive producer)
38. Deep Impact (1998) (executive producer)
39. "Pinky, Elmyra & the Brain" (1998) TV Series (executive producer)
40. "Toonsylvania" (1998) TV Series (executive producer)
    ... aka Steven Spielberg Presents Toonsylvania
41. Amistad (1997) (producer)
42. Men in Black (1997) (executive producer)
    ... aka MIB (USA: promotional abbreviation)
43. The Lost Children of Berlin (1997) (executive producer)
44. "High Incident" (1996) TV Series (executive producer) (1996-1997)
45. Twister (1996) (executive producer)
46. Survivors of the Holocaust (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
47. The Best of Roger Rabbit (1996) (V) (executive producer)
    ... aka Disney and Steven Spielberg present The Best of Roger Rabbit (USA: complete title)
48. Balto (1995) (executive producer)
49. "Freakazoid!" (1995) TV Series (executive producer)
50. "Pinky and the Brain" (1995) TV Series (executive producer)
51. Tiny Toon Adventures: Night Ghoulery (1995) (TV) (executive producer)
52. Casper (1995) (executive producer)
53. A Pinky & the Brain Christmas Special (1995) (TV) (executive producer)
54. "ER" (1994) TV Series (executive producer) (1994)
55. The Flintstones (1994) (executive producer) (as Steven Spielrock)
56. I'm Mad (1994) (executive producer)
57. Tiny Toon Adventures: Spring Break Special (1994) (TV) (executive producer)
58. Tiny Toons Spring Break (1994) (TV) (executive producer)
59. Yakko's World: An Animaniacs Singalong (1994) (V) (executive producer)
60. Schindler's List (1993) (producer)
61. We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story (1993) (executive producer)
62. "SeaQuest DSV" (1993) TV Series (executive producer)
    ... aka SeaQuest 2032 (USA: new title)
63. "Animaniacs" (1993) TV Series (executive producer)
    ... aka Animaniacs (UK)
    ... aka Steven Spielberg Presents Animaniacs (USA: complete title)
64. Class of '61 (1993) (TV) (executive producer)
65. Trail Mix-Up (1993) (executive producer)
66. SeaQuest DSV (1993) (TV) (executive producer)
67. It's a Wonderful Tiny Toons Christmas Special (1992) (TV) (executive producer)
68. "Family Dog" (1992) TV Series (executive producer)
69. "The Plucky Duck Show" (1992) TV Series (executive producer)
70. Tiny Toon Adventures: How I Spent My Vacation (1992) (V) (executive producer)
71. An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991) (producer)
72. Cape Fear (1991) (executive producer) (uncredited)
73. A Wish for Wings That Work (1991) (TV) (executive producer)
74. "Tiny Toon Adventures" (1990) TV Series (executive producer)
    ... aka Steven Spielberg Presents... Tiny Toon Adventures (USA)
75. Arachnophobia (1990) (executive producer)
76. Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990) (executive producer)
77. Roller Coaster Rabbit (1990) (executive producer)
78. Back to the Future Part III (1990) (executive producer)
79. Yume (1990) (executive producer: international version)
    ... aka Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
    ... aka Dreams
    ... aka I Saw a Dream Like This
    ... aka Konna yume wo mita
    ... aka Such Dreams I Have Dreamed (Japan: English title)
80. Joe Versus the Volcano (1990) (executive producer)
    
    
81. Always (1989) (producer)
82. Back to the Future Part II (1989) (executive producer)
83. Dad (1989) (executive producer)
84. Tummy Trouble (1989) (executive producer)
85. The Land Before Time (1988) (executive producer)
86. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) (executive producer)
87. *batteries not included (1987) (executive producer)
88. Empire of the Sun (1987) (producer)
89. Three O'Clock High (1987) (executive producer) (uncredited)
90. Innerspace (1987) (executive producer)
91. Harry and the Hendersons (1987) (executive producer) (uncredited)
    ... aka Bigfoot and the Hendersons (UK)
92. An American Tail (1986) (executive producer)
93. The Money Pit (1986) (executive producer)
94. The Color Purple (1985) (producer)
95. Young Sherlock Holmes (1985) (executive producer)
    ... aka Pyramid of Fear
96. "Amazing Stories" (1985) TV Series (executive producer)
    ... aka Steven Spielberg's Amazing Stories (USA: complete title)
97. Back to the Future (1985) (executive producer)
98. The Goonies (1985) (executive producer)
99. Fandango (1985) (executive producer) (uncredited)
100. Gremlins (1984) (executive producer)
101. Twilight Zone: The Movie (1983) (producer)
102. Poltergeist (1982) (producer)
103. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) (producer)
     ... aka E.T. (USA: short title)
     ... aka E.T. the Extra- Terrestrial: The 20th Anniversary (USA: longer version)
104. Continental Divide (1981) (executive producer)
105. Used Cars (1980) (executive producer)
     
     
106. I Wanna Hold Your Hand (1978) (executive producer)

[brazzaville]

Good morning.

I believe it was Golda Meir who said that there would only be peace in the Middle East when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Israelis.

I despair of that happening when I see photos of Palestinian children in their toy suicide vests.

Michael Frazier

[dervish]

You know what other piece of history you will never see --

"Abu Mazen [otherwise known as Mahmoud Abbas, current PM of Palestinians] headed some of the organization's most sensitive departments in the 1960s and '70s; it would have been remarkable if he was not involved in violence. Indeed, if we are to believe the autobiography of former PLO official Muhammad Daoud Oddeh published in France in 1999, Abu Mazen was involved in the hostage takeover at the 1972 Munich Olympic Games, which led to the death of 11 Israeli athletes.

Oddeh, known as Abu Daoud, wrote that he was the mastermind of Munich, which was carried out by the so-called Black September organization. He recalled that the plan was concocted in Rome at a meeting he held with senior PLO official Salah Khalaf, better known as Abu Iyad, and another colleague. Soon after, Abu Daoud began planning the operation. The only people he dealt with on the matter were Abu Iyad and Abu Mazen, who, Abu Iyad said, was to secure the funding."

http://www.slate.com/id/2085993/

[Sans-Culotte]

I also remember Sword of Gideon as being clear that the Palestinian terrorists were terrorist scum. There was a scene in which the leader of the Israeli squad goes to the hospital, to make certain that one of the Palis was in fact dead, and sees the terrorist's wife and kids waiting for word, and he gets all mushy, like they are "normal" people too. That scene just made me angrier at the terrorists, like they kiss the wife goodbye, and go off to "work", blowing people up.

I remember a good scene in which they've rigged a car to explode, but they have to keep taking their finger off the button for fear of blowing up an innocent. One of the Israelis remarks that the Palestinians set their bombs with no regard for who else might get killed.

I do not remember any innocents being killed by the Israelis in Sword of Gideon. I do remember that they took out a female assassin who had been hired by the Palis to take them out, but I would hardly call her an innocent.

[dervish]

Golda Meir made a terrible error in the Yom Kippur War which almost cost Israel its life.

To placate the international community she waited until Israel was attacked instead of pre-emptively striking before the inevitable attack took place.

"Despite the army's urgent insistence, the cabinet remained unwilling. In her autobiography, Golda Meir admits that she and her advisors had intelligence reports of an impending attack. Nevertheless, they refrained from calling up the reserves so that the world would see that Israel was not an aggressor. Allowing herself to be attacked would clearly demonstrate Israel's peaceful intent to the Americans and encourage them to support her with arms."

http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/eyes-upon-the-land/17.htm

[2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten]

Three comments.

1. This is an absolutely fantastic article. This guy totally "gets it" and every word of it rings true.

2. I never liked Speilberg when it seems like the rest of the world couldn't get enough of him. Many of his films I never saw (for example never saw Indiana Jones in it's entirety, ditto for ET) and those of his films I did see I didn't like very much. The article's explanation of Spielberg's "inner Peter Pan" or "Hardy Boys" view of the world resonates with me as probably one reason I never cared for his films (except maybe Private Ryan).

3. What he says about Speilberg in particuar, could just as easily be said about liberals and liberalism in general. They are all in touch with their inner Peter Pan and have a childlike view of the world in which everyone can be just made to "get along" if they could only receive the wisdom that liberals seem to have a monopoly on receiving and dispensing. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder and this article would indicate that Spielberg has a particularly virulent and contagious form of it!

Great article thanks for posting it!

[lowbridge]

bump

[Kenny Bunk]

It wasn't grammar that got me in hot water, it was those who couldn't read through my messy grammar thinking I am a HATER of religion, rather than one who see's religion as insignificant. . . . a major difference.

Pinto, it is the sender's job to make the transmission intelligible to the receiver. Your disdain for "grammar," might quite reasonably be construed as a device making anything you may care to say something you might either affirm or deny, as later developments strike your fancy.

Of course, if anyone thinks they might disagree with you, you can quite rightly claim they did not understand what you have to say.

Who could? The truth of the matter is that neither religion nor grammar are insignificant.

[Madison Moose]

My favorite qoute attributed to her was from when she was speaking to Anwar Sadat.
She said "We can forgive you for killing our sons, but we can never forgive you for making us kill yours."

[winner3000]

Some things never change. The Germans are still negotiating with terrorists. In exchange of one German civilian being released they released one terrorist. The cravenness is incredible.

[rcocean]

I have to give Spielberg credit for his love of the Jewish people - for example, when he visited Cuba and Castro he also made a visit to Jewish Cubans and the local Holocaust Museum:

Per the UPI:

"Spielberg spent four days in Cuba, launching a showcase of eight of his movies, meeting with Cuban filmmakers and paying visits to Havana's largest synagogue and a memorial to Holocaust victims at the city's Jewish cemetery. The Oscar-winning director of "Saving Private Ryan" and "Schindler's List" also dined with Fidel Castro, spending about eight hours with the Cuban leader discussing art, politics and history. During his trip, Spielberg made headlines by calling for an end to the 40-year-old U.S. trade embargo against Cuba, saying it was time to bury old grudges from the Cold War and expand interactions between Americans and Cubans."

[lowbridge]

I do not remember any innocents being killed by the Israelis in Sword of Gideon.

Sword of Gideon/Munich focuses on only ONE team of Israeli assasins. In fact, the Israelis had more than one team spread throughout Europe.

One of those teams accidentally mistook a waiter in Switzerland for a leading terrorist. They shot him to death right in front of his pregnant wife. IIRC, the Israelis wound up paying the now widowed woman 5 million dollars.

The "Munich" team, heard about the waiters murder on the news, surprised that they werent the only Israeli assasination squad.

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On July 21, 1973, the Israeli assassination team shot and killed an innocent man closely resembling Salameh. Earlier that day the surveillance team followed the individual they believed to be Salameh to a local public swimming pool. Soon after, he exited with an obviously pregnant woman. At approximately 1400 hours, the assassination team arrived in-country and proceeded to the Oppland Tourist Hotel where they registered under alias names. The surveillance team reported that they observed the assumed Salameh enter a movie theater with the same pregnant woman at approximately 2000 hours. The action team departed the hotel and deployed to intercept the target after he left the theater. The target and female companion exited the movie at approximately 2235 hours and took a bus to an area just a "short walk" from their flat. As they began their walk from the bus stop to the flat, two members of the action team exited a Mazda and began firing into the man believed to be Salameh with Baretta .22 caliber pistols. The pregnant woman crouched over the dying man, screaming as the team escaped from the scene. Individuals in the neighborhood notified the police, who arrived at the scene within the next few minutes. The team dropped the Mazda at a predesignated point and transferred to a Peugeot rented from a Scandinavian rental company to transport them out of Lillehammer.7

The authorities identified the dead man as Ahmed Bouchiki, a Moroccan, working as a waiter in Lillehammer. The pregnant woman was later identified as Bouchiki's wife. The police observed the Peugeot with the assassination team on a road leading away from Lillehammer after receiving reports of the shooting. Unfortunately, Dan Arbel and Marrianne Gladnikoff used poor operational tradecraft and utilized the Peugeot a second time to travel to the airport 24 hours later. Airport personnel observed the vehicle and reported it to the police. The police located the vehicle and immediately arrested both occupants.

During the police interrogation, Gladnikoff provided the police a safe house address as her residence. She also broke down and reported that she was working for the Government of Israel. Arbel had an unlisted phone number in his possession which lead the police to Yigal Zigal, originally believed to be an employee of El Al Airlines. Following Gladnikoff's lead, the police responded to the safe house address and discovered Yigal Zigal, Zwi Steinberg and Michael Dorf. Zigal claimed to be an Israeli Security Officer assigned to the Israeli embassy. He offered the police official Israeli credentials at the time of his arrest, ordered the police to leave the apartment, and attempted to claim diplomatic immunity. The police disregarded the credentials and took Zigal, Dorf, and Steinberg into custody. The police also discovered a detailed Mossad cable of instructions in Dorf's possession identifying the Mossad and specific evacuation procedures. This cable specifically ordered the unit not to carry any potentially compromising material with them during the course of the operation. 8 Steinberg also had two keys with a blue label attached identifying an apartment in Paris. After official notification, the French police responded to the address identified on the key labels. The French located the apartment and identified it as another Israeli safe house. Within that apartment were more keys and labels exposing almost every safe house in Paris. The French authorities recovered other incriminating evidence that allegedly linked the Israeli Government with other assassinations of PLO terrorists. A public trial of the six arrested Israeli team members exposed the details of the operation. Five team members were convicted for killing the waiter; Michael Dorf was acquitted. 9 Dan Raviv, co-author of Every Spy a Prince, reported that although the five officers were sentenced from two to five and one-half years in prison, all five were released by the Norwegians in less than twenty-two months.

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/calahan.htm

[wickedpinto]

I know you are right. It isn't necessarily disdain, it's laziness. But I get your point, and you're right.

[Sans-Culotte]

Thanks for the info. I assumed Sword of Gideon had merely cut that little faux pas from the story, so it is good to know they didn't.

It's obvious I'm gonna have to read that account that everybody at FR mentions.