Regardless of the why's her "nouveau riche" ass was tossed off the plane, they didn't need to hold up the flight, and ruin the flight for all the other passengers just to get their luggage!
It turns out that Missus "One of the top preachers in the nation" was merely practicing her Shake Your Moneymaker routine in anticipation of the Aspen Charity Drive the family was rushing to attend.
Most of you Yankees probably haven't been to a Southern Megachurch. Some of them are like small cities.
My own church, Second Baptist of Houston is starting an 86 milllion dollar program. One of our satellite churches in katy Texas will build 200,000 square feet of additional space, primarily for our children. And we will be adding four churches in the Houston area. The main church on Woodway will buy a small shopping center for additional space, plus an additional area for parking, which is in very short supply.
We also will be establishing new churches in several major cities around the nation and space has been made available for us to start new churches in other countries.
As an aside, we have built 225 churches in Latin America over the last 25 years. And by that I mean that our members have landed with tools and supplies and constructed them with their own hands.
There is a very strong revival in the South and it shows in the attendance patterns that are developing.
Even though it was Victoria who caused the commotion, I'm seeing alot of unwarranted venom directed at Joel on this thread.
Just a convenient thread to bash him on, I suppose.
This is the same AP who provides us hourly doses of anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Bush, anti-Conservative, anti-Republican, anti-capitalist, anti-EVERYTHING-WE-STAND FOR garbage...by the truckload! They are the #1 mouthpice for the enemy and we would, and should, dismiss virtually all of their crap out of hand before it hits the light of day.
This story contained, at best, sketchy 'witness' testimony that barely painted a picture of the horrible deed that many of you have morphed this into.
Regarding Joel Osteen, I personally don't follow him or his teaching, but certainly he does not portray himself as a man without sin, only as a man who follows his Lord and Saviour who was the only one who walked the earth without sin. If he can bring one person to Christ that would not have otherwise, then his life shall be a success.
It would be a good thing to get the details on this before people rush to judgement.
What's been reported makes her seem like a spoiled self absorbed woman. Maybe true. But`seeing how people sometimes are set up and misreported you never know.
What a lovely thread. SO good to see fellow FReepers being so non-judgmental; swallowing a media story hook, line, and sinker.
I'm disgusted.
Hay wood and stubble....describes their ministry. I'd like to see his income from that church. I'd bet it's in 7 figures with loads of benefits. He is a fleecer of the flock!
I'm not going to say a word against Victoria, as I was almost ejected from a health club after a big disagreement with the idiotic staff who treated me disgracefully. I objected on no uncertain terms, they called security. Meanwhile, I ducked out the side, went to the big boss with my story and the employees involved were immediately fired. As they should have been.
My guess is that Mrs. Olsteen got into a similar situation, simply expecting airline personnel to be polite and do their jobs. Many really do not.
I don't trust this guy. I have a hard time listening to preachers that care that much about their hair and their looks, and who court that many churchgoers. I don't like a big time preacher flying first class to Vail on money that was given by people with far, far less with the expectation that that money was to be used to spread the Good News. I guess that's what Christmas is all about, Vail; eh, preacher?
Gimme an old wooden church on a dirt road with an old raspy preacher behind an old wooden pulpit any day of the week. That's what you call that Old Time Religion, it was good for the Prophet Daniel and it's good enough for me.
http://lonestartimes.com/2005/12/20/victoria-osteen-tossed-from-flight-at-iah/
40,000 isn't a church, it's a mob. What kind of candy is he promising? A get-out-of-hell-free card for every visitor brought in?
She may ask TOM CRUISE for some advice....
I wonder if they first asked themselves what class Jesus would fly?
I like his upbeat message but do not support mega churches.
TV it is free 'cept the cable bill.
SO much for his preaching the other day where he said he and Victoria had been given tickets to spendy seats for a play and the language was so bad that they QUIETLY got up and left so as to not to feed the foul message into their souls.
Well isn't Colorado kinda of like Hollywood Glitz skiing sorta folks?
I don't ski but I did get a catalog for clothes to wear in Aspen and a sweater plain and white on a size 1 6ft tall model cost around $400 bucks and that was one of the cheap items.
So much for getting up Quietly and leaving.
How much do you figure those 2 spend per week on hair maintenance?