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Did Bush willingly commit a ZOT? Please say it ain't so

Posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:47 AM PST by always thr constitution

I have been arguing with stupid libs for two days saying that Bush committed no crime because under the provisions of the USSID 18 and the FSIA, he could with perfect legitimacy eavesdrop on aliens involved in terrorist activities if he had AG approval.

However, what was puzzling is that Gonzales did not cite USSID 18; he cited the more dubious rationale of war powers approval. This would seem to indicate that Bush was spying on US citizens without a Court Order which clearly violates USSID 18 and the FSIA, and was using war powers approval to cover for it.

Now such actions are not unprecedented during wartime; however, since there has been no officiial declaration of war, there seems to be Constitutional as well as legal issues at work here.

I never thought Bush would resort to such extreme measures to skirt the law. I hope I am wrong. Please tell me why Bush didn't do this.


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To: Michael Goldsberry

Awww...he's cute.


81 posted on 12/20/2005 9:18:20 AM PST by EX52D ((I have shifted to "Christmas Survival Mode"))
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To: darkwing104; Victoria Delsoul; MikeinIraq; thoughtomator
however, since there has been no officiial declaration of war, there seems to be Constitutional as well as legal issues at work here.


82 posted on 12/20/2005 9:18:57 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: Dashing Dasher; Slings and Arrows

See the pic in post #82. :-D


83 posted on 12/20/2005 9:19:36 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (The opposite of Progress is Congress)
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To: exile

84 posted on 12/20/2005 9:21:27 AM PST by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: edcoil

Thanks!


85 posted on 12/20/2005 9:21:59 AM PST by Frank_2001
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To: WhiteGuy; linda_22003
Please Linda, you're going to ruin a perfectly good "troll frenzy"

In the article Ms. Linda linked, Bruce Fein fulminates: "President Bush presents a clear and present danger to the rule of law." If you, Ms. Linda, and others actually believe that, then there is no hope for you, troll or no troll.

86 posted on 12/20/2005 9:22:24 AM PST by Wolfstar ("In war, there are usually only two exit strategies: victory or defeat." Mark Steyn)
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To: AmishDude
IB4TZ!!!

What does this stand for?

87 posted on 12/20/2005 9:22:30 AM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: always thr constitution

What a weak effort...yawn.


88 posted on 12/20/2005 9:22:50 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Yikes.


89 posted on 12/20/2005 9:23:07 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.)
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To: Wolfstar

Something passes the smell test if you'd approve of a President you DON'T like doing it. Does this?


90 posted on 12/20/2005 9:23:16 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Sister_T

In Be4 The Zot


91 posted on 12/20/2005 9:23:29 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows.)
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To: darkwing104
     
Here in time to sing

92 posted on 12/20/2005 9:24:19 AM PST by Lady Jag (Honor - Dignity - Courage - Troll Consumption)
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To: MNJohnnie

ZOT ping! (125 so far)


93 posted on 12/20/2005 9:24:23 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: always thr constitution

94 posted on 12/20/2005 9:24:27 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: Dashing Dasher

Thanks.


95 posted on 12/20/2005 9:25:06 AM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: Dashing Dasher; Michael Goldsberry; darkwing104

I wonder, does the bunny suit shrink if the kitty wears it in the shower?


96 posted on 12/20/2005 9:25:08 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Don't forget the cheese!)
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To: always thr constitution
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97 posted on 12/20/2005 9:26:54 AM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Sister_T

In Before The Zot! (as far as I know)


98 posted on 12/20/2005 9:27:44 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I might be wrong, but I'm always right.)
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To: confederacy of dunces; Dashing Dasher; darkwing104
kitty wears it in the shower?

Viking Kitties don't need no steeenkin' showers. Dirt runs away from them.

99 posted on 12/20/2005 9:27:47 AM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: always thr constitution

You're a typical MIND CONTROLLED ZOMBIE...


100 posted on 12/20/2005 9:29:50 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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