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Officials Fret Over Disappearance Of Explosives (NM)
KOAT TV7, Albuquerque ^ | December 19, 2005 | KOAT News

Posted on 12/19/2005 1:29:57 PM PST by CedarDave

Officials Fret Over Disappearance Of Explosives 150 Pounds Of Explosives Missing From Sandia-Affiliated Company

POSTED: 2:10 pm MST December 19, 2005 UPDATED: 2:17 pm MST December 19, 2005

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Officials discovered hundreds of pounds of explosives stolen in Albuquerque on Sunday.

One hundred fifty pounds of c4, 250 pound deta sheet, and 2,000 blasting caps were taken from a Sandia Labs employee's company.

Officials are very concerned about these thefts.

The items were stolen from a facility in Southwest Albuquerque.

Burglars apparently cut through steel bars to get at the goods.

C4 is a plastic explosive.

A deta sheet is another explosive that looks like a rubbery sheet of orange or green paper.

What makes deta sheets especially dangerous is that they can be hidden in books or letters. It cannot be spotted by a metal detector but are used by engineers for detonation.

Blasting caps are devices used to set off explosives.

If you know anything about the disappearance, please call police.

Copyright 2005 by TheNewMexicoChannel.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: banglist; blastingcaps; c4; cherryengineering; detasheet; detonators; explosives; explosivestheft; isolatedincident; rdx; sandia; sandialab; sandialabs
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To: Squantos; All

This doesn't look good either:

NUCLEAR FUEL MISSING
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10527669/


161 posted on 12/19/2005 4:31:22 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: BobS
Has anyone needed it?

I can't find the HUD video....too bad. The ATC that talked him down was as much of a hero as the pilot....."You're on the glideslope, I have you perfectly.....continue descent"...."I can't See the Runway"...."I have you, you should see the lights in a minute......"

Balls o steel. One hand on the stick and one on the eject handle (since the throttle is rather worthless at this point)....your EPU works just fine.

162 posted on 12/19/2005 4:40:51 PM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: BobS; Admin Moderator
Please delete that comment. Nothing against the BobS, and most people already know the other ingredient, but the added involvement of the cigarette would be too tempting for some foolish adolescent. FR could have liability, as well.
163 posted on 12/19/2005 4:41:26 PM PST by steve86 (@)
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To: penelopesire

When one understands that a RDD (radioactive dispersal device) aka dirty bomb is as simple as a blackcat firecracker and a old thorium coleman lantern mantle it just gets ugly.

These are just the uxo and rad we hear about....think what's never reported .........:o)

Stay safe !!!


164 posted on 12/19/2005 4:41:28 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: CedarDave
Updated version is clearer, and worse about types and amounts.

Federal investigators have joined with Albuquerque police and state police after hundreds of pounds of plastic explosives turned up missing Sunday at a secure Albuquerque storage facility.

Also missing are 2,500 blasting caps, 250 pounds of deta sheets and an undetermined length of explosive detonation cords.

Seems to indicate all items taken from a single location, although one would hope from multiple bunkers or other storage areas at that site.

165 posted on 12/19/2005 4:42:11 PM PST by El Gato
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To: ScreamingFist

HYDRAZINE !!!!!............RUN !


166 posted on 12/19/2005 4:44:37 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
No security type wouldn't have the keys...won't go into why or why not....Stay safe !

On rethinking, I agree. They'd have some keys, to offices and such, but not those. No more than they have the combos to the safes used to store classified material.

167 posted on 12/19/2005 4:44:42 PM PST by El Gato
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To: CedarDave

Inside job all over it. Current or former employee?


168 posted on 12/19/2005 4:47:41 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: El Gato

There ya go ....:o)

Conventional vs special weapons aside ya remember the drill....!!

I'm thinking this was off the DOE/DOD property in a contractor setting. One of the big walk in construction steel uxo boxes (no alarms required) used by commercial blasting operations with dual locks in no cut hasp housings and the bad guy/s petromaxed it off the hinges in about two seconds flat.....just a SWAG of course !


Will be interesting to see WTF happened if we ever do.....

could be some insider BB stacker that goofed his/her inventory and had to cover up bad accounting but that is a reach on my part...


169 posted on 12/19/2005 4:53:20 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

Most of what you guys are talking about is greek to me, but it is scary enough to follow this thread and wonder why the media is choosing to completly ignore such a story. While I was about googling for news about this I came across thousands of stories about the 'missing explosives' in Iraq!! Remember that little lefty press meltdown right before the election? I guess when explosives go missing here in the USA, it is no big deal. (shaking head) But if explosives of the enemy in a WAR ZONE go 'missing', it is really bad..(rolling eyes)


170 posted on 12/19/2005 4:56:39 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: oldbrowser

Many times lately I've concluded American aviation is done for.


171 posted on 12/19/2005 4:58:27 PM PST by txhurl (hook'em)
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To: ScreamingFist

How in the hell can these types of explosives and detonators NOT be in some sort of guarded, controlled area? Are these people that damn stupid? Hell, even the mining company we work with has their explosive under lock & key, with security camera's and security guards.

The owner (Cherry) needs to be brought under indictment for criminal neglect.


172 posted on 12/19/2005 4:58:42 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: mallardx

Funny how that headline is so very accurate.


173 posted on 12/19/2005 5:00:25 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast

I concur at this point.


174 posted on 12/19/2005 5:01:06 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire; archy

9 out of ten such thefts are gomer gamers just blowing stuff up in the boonies.

Any kid who's watched a season of Mr Wizard can kill themselves as long as the great wall of mart is open 24/7. IMHO too much concern shown. Also if detasheet is to be used in it's "flat" sheet configuration it has to use a special mini det as a standard cap is not reliable unless the sheet is balled up or rolled etc to use as bulk uxo.

Archy have you anthing to add to this mess of opinions and SWAG's ?:o)


175 posted on 12/19/2005 5:06:39 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
HYDRAZINE !!!!!............RUN !

LOL! I remember guys walking out in full Bio gear to deal with firing an EPU, but for some reason smarty pants weapons guys that put dummy nose fuses on 500lb bombs and "let them spin" were never brought to justice....it was, however, a good way to make sure pilots went through their entire pre-flight checklist......

176 posted on 12/19/2005 5:10:23 PM PST by ScreamingFist ( The RKBA doesn't apply if I have a bigger gun than your bodyguard. NRA)
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To: Blzbba
Only a complete moron or fool would blame a terrorist attack on any political party. None of them can watch every person on the face of the earth 24/7. All it takes is one nut case or a real terrorist just one opportunity to make a real nasty scene.

The fact is there will be another terrorist attack within the U.S. and to blame Bush, Clinton or Ronald McDonald is an exercise fraught with ignorance. It is only a matter of time before one out the hundreds or perhaps thousands of attempts succeeds.

The goal is to make it as hard as possible for that success to occur, and the Senate Democrats are trying to make it much easier.
177 posted on 12/19/2005 5:11:28 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast
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To: ScreamingFist

My favorite was to create a Mk 82 one lugger and leave the 904 spinning in the breeeze and send out a new crew chief and watch the fun !

A bottle of vinegar poured over a pile of dry ice chips under that epu port was also a hoot !

Yeah I was a funny guy when we had tests for EOD responses !


178 posted on 12/19/2005 5:18:18 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

"Also if detasheet is to be used in it's "flat" sheet configuration it has to use a special mini det as a standard cap is not reliable unless the sheet is balled up or rolled etc to use as bulk uxo."

Doesn't sound too hard to do..rolling the stuff up. Someone posted earlier that they used to cook their food by rolling it up in the service(sorry forgot who it was). I don't know..so many thing have gone missing in that part of the country. What if the terrorists are slowly stealing the parts for a dirty bomb right here in our country and assembling it somewhere right now? Not a thing we can do about it I guess.


179 posted on 12/19/2005 5:22:18 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: El Gato
Authorities are offering a reward of up to $50,000 for information that helps them recover the stolen goods, which burglars cut through steel bars to get to.

They badly want this stuff back and soon.

180 posted on 12/19/2005 5:27:05 PM PST by CedarDave
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