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Border Patrol fears conflict with Mexican Military
World Net Daily ^ | December 19, 2005 | Jon Dougherty

Posted on 12/19/2005 10:01:28 AM PST by thorshammer

Border Patrol fears conflict with Mexican military Agent: 'It's like we're having a battle … that no one speaks of'

Posted: December 19, 2005 12:42 p.m. Eastern

By Jon Dougherty © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Border Patrol agents stationed along the nation's southwestern frontier increasingly are fearful of encountering armed and potentially hostile military units from Mexico.

Also, agents say, officers are hamstrung in their response, citing concerns the U.S. government is often too deferential to Mexican authorities.

"It's like we're having a battle on the border that no one speaks of," one agent told the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin newspaper in Ontario, Calif.

"The Border Patrol lives in constant fear of pleasing the consulate general of Mexico," the agent continued. "It's one of the things that's most mystifying to line agents" because the U.S. is one of the most powerful countries in the world but appears to be more interested in accommodating Mexico City, the agent said.

Indeed, the confrontations have become so routine the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has issued written orders that agents carry with them regarding "what to do" if confronted by Mexican military units, many of which are in the employ of Mexico's powerful drug cartels.

According to the "Military Incursion" cards, "Mexican military are trained to escape, evade and counter-ambush if it will affect their escape." Therefore, the card says, Border Patrol agents should follow recommended procedures in case they encounter armed Mexican military units.

The paper said the cards also instruct agents to hide from Mexican military operating in their areas. Rather than engage in contact, agents are ordered to "Avoid it."

One Arizona agent described the units to the paper, saying they "are active Mexican military that have sold out to the cartels."

"We talk about cooperation with the Mexican government," the agent continued, "but most of them seem to be on the take. The [Bush] administration, the DHS, they are very hushed about this."

Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., head of the House Immigration Reform Caucus, told WorldNetDaily in a 2002 interview he was concerned about a rising number of incursions occurring along the U.S. southwest border.

Noting that elements of the Mexican military were posing a threat to American agents and civilians along the border, he said, "We're no safer today than we were on Sept. 12," in reference to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Tancredo said he began making trips to the border because he became alarmed over increasing reports that border personnel were being shot at on a regular basis, as well as chased and targeted by "rogue elements" of the Mexican military. He said such units either were loyal to Mexican-based drug lords or operating outside the scope of their military mandate.

WND has reported that as early as November 2000, Mexican troops had fired on U.S. Border Patrol agents on American soil.

U.S. authorities also have known for some time that elements of Mexican military and law enforcement units have been corrupted by drug cartels.

"In actuality, law enforcement in Mexico is all too often part of the problem rather than part of the solution," Anthony Placido, the Drug Enforcement Administration's acting assistant administrator for intelligence, told a House panel earlier this year. "This is particularly true at the municipal and state levels of government."


TOPICS: Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; conflict; duck; iffiredupon; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico; namericancommunity; openborders; surrendertomexico
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To: alloysteel

sssshhh, this was a well kept secret.


21 posted on 12/19/2005 10:18:36 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways "Guero")
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To: sasafras

Give me a break - GW and the RINOs would be asking for the execution of any border patrol agent who might defend himself.

I have said that for awhile. Also the number of victims of illegal alien rapists, murderers, drunk drivers, etc. far outweigh the people murdered on 9/11. That is a statistic that should be pounded into every American.


22 posted on 12/19/2005 10:20:38 AM PST by sheana
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To: thorshammer

Makes me want to puke!


23 posted on 12/19/2005 10:21:19 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: thorshammer

Our hammering on our lazy misrepresentatives is finally making some dents. If I don't hear presidential candidates debating the paint color of the new massive border wall in 2008, I may just stay home on voting day.


24 posted on 12/19/2005 10:25:28 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: thorshammer
This is easy. If the Mexican Patrol crosses the border, we destroy them. I f any one else crosses the border we say,"Parada! O dispararé", then shoot them dead. No more Mr. Nice guys.
25 posted on 12/19/2005 10:31:10 AM PST by SteveSpeaking
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To: thorshammer

A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the "establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community" with a common "outer security perimeter."

"Community" means integrating the United States with the corruption, socialism, poverty and population of Mexico and Canada. "Common perimeter" means wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

"Community" is sometimes called "space" but the CFR goal is clear: "a common economic space ... for all people in the region, a space in which trade, capital, and people flow freely." The CFR's "integrated" strategy calls for "a more open border for the movement of goods and people."

The CFR document lays "the groundwork for the freer flow of people within North America." The "common security perimeter" will require us to "harmonize visa and asylum regulations" with Mexico and Canada, "harmonize entry screening," and "fully share data about the exit and entry of foreign nationals."

This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.

A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership."

The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.

Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico."

The document's frequent references to "security" are just a cover for the real objectives. The document's "security cooperation" includes the registration of ballistics and explosives, while Canada specifically refused to cooperate with our Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI).

To no one's surprise, the CFR plan calls for massive U.S. foreign aid to the other countries. The burden on the U.S. taxpayers will include so-called "multilateral development" from the World Bank and the Inter-American Development Bank, "long-term loans in pesos," and a North American Investment Fund to send U.S. private capital to Mexico.

The experience of the European Union and the World Trade Organization makes it clear that a common market requires a court system, so the CFR document calls for "a permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution." Get ready for decisions from non-American judges who make up their rules ad hoc and probably hate the United States anyway.

The CFR document calls for allowing Mexican trucks "unlimited access" to the United States, including the hauling of local loads between U.S. cities. The CFR document calls for adopting a "tested once" principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards.

The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system.

Here's another handout included in the plan. U.S. taxpayers are supposed to create a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges.

To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . . along the lines of the Bilderberg" conferences.

The best known Americans who participated in the CFR Task Force that wrote this document are former Massachusetts Governor William Weld and Bill Clinton's immigration chief Doris Meissner. Another participant, American University Professor Robert Pastor, presented the CFR plan at a friendly hearing of Senator Richard Lugar's Foreign Relations Committee on June 9.

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html


26 posted on 12/19/2005 10:33:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The dreams of the sheeple are deep and peaceful.)
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To: thorshammer
The paper said the cards also instruct agents to hide from Mexican military operating in their areas. Rather than engage in contact, agents are ordered to "Avoid it."

If Syrian army units were crossing into Iraq our military would be quickly dispatched to destroy them and teach Syria a lesson.

Why is our government less interested in guarding our own border than the Iraqi border?

27 posted on 12/19/2005 10:36:32 AM PST by KarlInOhio (What is the most obscene gesture to a Democrat? An Iraqi voter showing him a stained finger.)
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To: sheana

"Also the number of victims of illegal alien rapists, murderers, drunk drivers, etc. far outweigh the people murdered on 9/11. That is a statistic that should be pounded into every American."

I have a very liberal neighbor who happens to be a professor at UT. He was constantly defending the wave of illegas here in Austin until he was rear ended by and undocumented driver from an unnamed country to the South. No insurance, no license, no papers what so ever....Oh do I need to say no English. The local cops wrote this poor undocumented driver a ticket and turned him lose never to be heard from again. My neighbor's brand new $45,000 SUV was totaled by his insurance company costing him over $6,000 of his own money to replace said vehicle. He has now changed his tune.


28 posted on 12/19/2005 10:37:15 AM PST by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: thorshammer

Geeezzz....somethin' had better be done over mex mil and our border guards. Maybe this is why we're not putting our military on the border? Lots of mex mil would be dead, fast.


29 posted on 12/19/2005 10:39:19 AM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: thorshammer

M1A1
30 posted on 12/19/2005 10:44:45 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SteveSpeaking

"There's often more truth -- or deceit -- in fiction than in works presented as fact."

The Boston Globe is a newspaper, there fore it's contents are presented as fact. It's contents are fiction presented as fact therefore, it's contents are deceitful.


31 posted on 12/19/2005 10:44:58 AM PST by SteveSpeaking
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To: Wiseghy

"Any conflict with Mexican troops would be a severe blow to US relations. I doubt the Mexicans would let it happen."

They're not letting it happen. Mexico has given orders to our government not to resist and we are complying.


32 posted on 12/19/2005 10:48:02 AM PST by dljordan
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To: KarlInOhio

... Why is our government less interested in guarding our own border than the Iraqi border?...

The beginnings of the explanantion are in post 26.


33 posted on 12/19/2005 10:58:42 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The dreams of the sheeple are deep and peaceful.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Disgusting.

Neocons totally disgust me.

34 posted on 12/19/2005 11:00:31 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
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To: alloysteel

Sure. Great idea. A hundred millions more welfare cases, and a hundred million more Democrat voters.


35 posted on 12/19/2005 11:04:20 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Lazamataz

...To ensure that the U.S. government carries out this plan so that it is "achievable" within five years, the CFR calls for supervision by a North American Advisory Council of "eminent persons from outside government . . .


More than just Neocons. Neocomms too. Like Robert Reich, maybe even George Soros. He's in the club, too.

But hey, so is Rice, Chertoff, Cheney and everyone else you think you want to trust.

Make ya puke.


36 posted on 12/19/2005 11:04:21 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The dreams of the sheeple are deep and peaceful.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Make ya puke.

Sure made me give up activism.

37 posted on 12/19/2005 11:07:27 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
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To: Lazamataz

Me too.


38 posted on 12/19/2005 11:09:32 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The dreams of the sheeple are deep and peaceful.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

the MEXICAN government is very confident that the U.S. government controls the people of this country and how we will deal with mexico.
The fact is the best thing that could happen to this country is if our border patrol did start a shoot out war with mexican soldiers. The u.s. government would then HAVE to declare that we are at war with mexico because the american majority would scream for it and that would safely put an end to NAFTA, CAFTA and anyother north american nation crap they are trying.


39 posted on 12/19/2005 11:12:33 AM PST by annelizly
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To: thorshammer

>>>"The Border Patrol lives in constant fear of pleasing the consulate general of Mexico," the agent continued. "It's one of the things that's most mystifying to line agents" because the U.S. is one of the most powerful countries in the world but appears to be more interested in accommodating Mexico City, the agent said.>>>

Thanks Bush.


40 posted on 12/19/2005 11:13:03 AM PST by sandbar
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