[tallhappy]

Stupid communists.

The ironic thing is that over the next fifty years if japan had maintained control over China and we had not liberated China millions less Chinese people would have died via murder and famine and torture and China would be a lot wealthier and modern today.

I thin we should let Japan at em again.

[Wombat101]

We hardly "liberated" China.

One of the reasons Truman decided to use the Atomic bomb was because fully 3/4 of the Japanese Army was stationed in China and it's enviorns, left completely unfought, and with relatively easy passage back to the Japanese main islands.

China's role in the Second World War is hugely misunderstood, particularly by the Chinese themselves. The Chinese Nationalists and Communists spent more time fighting each other than they did the Japanese (when they DID decide to fight), and many Chinese simply collaborated, taking a page from the French playbook.

China's great value was not as a fighting ally of the United States, but as a sponge soaking up Japanese troops and equipment that would have been used against us elsewhere.

[dsc]

" if japan had maintained control over China and we had not liberated China millions less Chinese people would have died via murder and famine and torture and China would be a lot wealthier and modern today."

I think you gravely underestimate just how badly the Japanese treated subjected people.

You want to know what China would have looked like if Japan had maintained control over the ensuing fifty years? Think Olongapo, circa 1975.

[rahbert]

What a bizarre, inhumane and irrational statement.

Read Iris Chang's book about the Rape of Nanking and
see if theres a shred of decency in your heart.

[LK44-40]

...if japan had maintained control over China and we had not liberated China millions less Chinese people would have died via murder and famine and torture and China would be a lot wealthier and modern today.

I admire your in-your-face attitude toward the Chicoms, but I must disagree with the outcome of your thought experiment.

Japan is an important US ally and a responsible actor on today's international stage. But Japan has a problem with getting fully in touch with the humanity of non-Japanese people (and they have trouble looking honestly at history). My guess is that China under the Japanese would have been horrific beyond description. It gives me no pleasure to say this.

[muir_redwoods]

"I thin we should let Japan at em again"

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

[pganini]

You're so ignorant you have no idea what you're talking about. Japan on China?

Have you heard of the human experimentation? They did much worse to teh Chinese than the Germans did to the Jews.

You're a truly sorry person.

[Little Ray]

I t'ink we should be vewy qwiet, and encourage the PRC to collapse from corruption, cronyism and social unrest. After all, they're givin' us a lotta help is this direction.

[Petey139]

"Stupid communists.
The ironic thing is that over the next fifty years if japan had maintained control over China and we had not liberated China millions less Chinese people would have died via murder and famine and torture and China would be a lot wealthier and modern today.

I thin we should let Japan at em again."

I dont think China will leave Japan go that easy, The second a jap starts a war, Japan will be nothing more than a bunch of huge mushroom clouds. Honestly, Anti-Jap sentiment in China, Nuclear Stockpile in a Chinese Armory. Do the the math. Thats right Jap Sautee avec de la fumee Anyone?

[Cronos]

The Japanese conquest of China actually helped the communists and decimated the Nationalists.

Furthermore, remember that the point raised : Some Japanese even deny the massacre took place is quite true. See the disgust (appropriate) that comes when Iran's Presidente denies the Holocaust and you can understand why they dislike Koizumi's visits to the Shrine.