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*** PRAYER REQUEST *** AND-- NEED ADVICE PLEASE!*******
12-17-05 | EMiller

Posted on 12/17/2005 8:48:59 AM PST by emiller

Hi- Need some help...

My brother, Ray, is coming down with a case of shingles. From what I understand, it is pretty much Biblically Job-like, as a disease. Extremely painful. He doesn't have a rash yet, just a stabbing pain in one side of his back, and the skin is so sensitive, it hurts when clothes touch it.

He has some accliver (sp?) coming today- an antiviral, but other than that, I would really appreciate any advice I can give to him. I think he caught it soon enough, before the really bad symptoms appear, to do some good. So it would be great if we could knock it out before the real pain sets in.

My dad was in the hospital early last month, and is very sick, so I think the stress from that has weakened the immune systems of my entire family. Little sleep, and constant worry.

Most importantly, after the advice, I'd appreciate any prayers you could send his way. Like I said, his name is Ray, and he lives in California. Thanks everybody- you can always count on a Freeper.


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Thanks in advance guys! I'll pass this thread along to my brother.
1 posted on 12/17/2005 8:49:00 AM PST by emiller
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To: emiller

Prayers up... searching the net for you.


2 posted on 12/17/2005 8:51:49 AM PST by AliVeritas (To all traitorous libs and seditious has beens, "Take two gallows and call me in the morning")
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To: emiller

Your brother has my prayers. My FIL has this and it is obviously very painful. 'fraid I don't have any advice to offer though.


3 posted on 12/17/2005 8:55:02 AM PST by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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What Are the Treatments?

http://www.hipusa.com/eTools/webmd/A-Z_Encyclopedia/shinglestreatment.htm

Shingles Treatment in the East and West (Lots of Links)

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f00/web2/hayesconroya2.html


4 posted on 12/17/2005 8:55:17 AM PST by AliVeritas (To all traitorous libs and seditious has beens, "Take two gallows and call me in the morning")
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To: emiller

http://www.webmd.com/hw/shingles/hw75435.asp

That's some general information. I'm sure that his doctor has given him more. About the only thing that I'd add is to nail down the cause of his recent immune deficiency to make sure that this isn't secondary to something else that is going on.

Good luck.


5 posted on 12/17/2005 8:55:44 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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Acyclovir was one of the first new generation anti-virals. There are a few others on the market now. Acyclovir may be the best for this situation, but if it doesn't do the trick one of they others may.


6 posted on 12/17/2005 8:55:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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Prayers. Remember that if you or your family haven't been vaccinated or have never had chicken pox then you can get chickenpox from someone with shingles.


7 posted on 12/17/2005 8:56:56 AM PST by CindyDawg
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L-Lysine 500 mg/day, Valtrex


8 posted on 12/17/2005 8:57:26 AM PST by JmyBryan
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To: emiller

Prayers from TX


9 posted on 12/17/2005 8:57:52 AM PST by TXBSAFH ("I would rather be a free man in my grave then living as a puppet or a slave." - Jimmy Cliff)
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To: emiller

First, my sympathies.

Second, I don't have shingles but I have diabetic neuropothy which has similar symptoms. I can't use the antivirals that help shingles but I have found that B vitamins help with nerve damage that a topical painkiller like aspercreme is helpful and that an anti-convulsant helps the symptoms (and the one I take has a side effect of weight loss, which is nice.)

People with shingles and diabetic neuropathy are frequently given pain killers, something I am avoiding because the risk of addiction is high. On the other hand I had a much older relative with shingles and there was no reason for him not to take the pain killers since he was 80+.

I wish you and family good luck.


10 posted on 12/17/2005 8:58:42 AM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: JmyBryan

There are lots of natural remedies (do a search for "shingles, natural cure" or, "shingles, natural remedy"

One of them says:
"Apply Natural Apple Cider Vinegarbuy natural apple cider vinegar, just as it comes from the bottle, to the skin area where the shingles are located, four times during the day and three times during the night if you are awake. The itching and burning sensation in the skin will leave usually within a few minutes after the vinegar is applied."

I have NO IDEA if the above will work, but anything is worth a try.


11 posted on 12/17/2005 8:58:52 AM PST by CondorFlight
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Hurts like HELL but he will be fine in about ten days. I still have scars on my left leg from many yaers ago. Make sure he has a BIG bottle of Burbon, and a hand full of pain killers every hour or so and he will do great.


12 posted on 12/17/2005 8:59:10 AM PST by devane617 (An Alley-Cat mind is a terrible thing to waste)
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I had Shingles in my mid 20's...During a time of great stress. They are very painful. The Valtrex your brother was prescribed is about the best there is. A good doctor should also give him pain killers, and prescribe rest. Calamine loction helps some, But once the blisters erupt, It is only time that helps.
It took about 3 months to run it's course, and some folks end up with post herpetic nueralgia to boot. (sp)
I wish your brother and your family well.It is good that you are there for him.
If I can help. Please let me know :)


13 posted on 12/17/2005 8:59:33 AM PST by Nothometoday
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There is a recently approved vaccine for folks over 60. If he's around any senior citizens, they may want to look into it. I don't know if it would do him any good at this point.


14 posted on 12/17/2005 8:59:44 AM PST by PAR35
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You are correct about the stress over your family situation weakening your brother's immune system.

Shingles is caused by a reactivation of the same virus that causes chicken pox, which is herpes-zoster virus. After the initial bout of chicken pox, the virus takes up residence in dorsal root ganglia...these are bundles of nerve cell bodies alongside the vertebrae, they are the bodies of the sensory neurons that run into the spinal cord.

The zoster virus tends to reactivate in times of weakened immunity...due to other illness, immunosuppression, and yes, stress as well.

The blisters will occur only on the area of the body that is innervated by the affected nerve. Also, remember that the virus is living in a sensory nerve. That means that your brother may have exceptionally high sensitivity to touch, et cetera in that area.

The anti-viral you are mentioning is likely acyclovir, which is the first-line treatment for this virus. Acyclovir has a pretty good side-effect profile, which means it shouldn't cause your brother many problems. Aside from that, I'd recommend lots of rest.


15 posted on 12/17/2005 9:04:15 AM PST by The Phantom FReeper (Have you hugged your soldier today?)
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Father Lord we pray that Ray will be healed of these shingles. In Jesus' name amen.

AVEENO anti itch cream will be a big help..I had a small case of them and it was the only thing I could find to give me relief. It's designed for chickenpox sufferers which is the precursor of having shingles as an adult it seems.

16 posted on 12/17/2005 9:05:12 AM PST by GailA (Happy Birthday to my Lord and Savior Jesus.)
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Is this after he would have gotten the initial sore?

There are measures that effectively stop shingles if you get to the doctor immediately after getting that early single sore.

However, if it is ignored and a real case comes on, then if he has the kind that leaves a permanent imprint on the nerves (a small minority have that one and my grandmother is among them), there are no effective treatments, I fear.

There are some trials going on that may have some solutions, but nothing else really can dull the nerve pain.

I'm sorry this has happened to your brother. This may really take a lot of stamina from him. My grandmother only gets a few hours of sleep a night from it now.


17 posted on 12/17/2005 9:06:20 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: gondramB
I don't have shingles but I have diabetic neuropothy which has similar symptoms [to shingles].

Same here. Neither is for the faint of heart.

I have found that B vitamins help with nerve damage

Good info.

an anti-convulsant helps the symptoms (and the one I take has a side effect of weight loss, which is nice.)

Which one are you taking? I've been struggling with weight issues ever since my pancreas was dinged by cancer.

18 posted on 12/17/2005 9:06:49 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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Will be keeping you and yours in my prayers. May the Lord bless you and keep you close.
19 posted on 12/17/2005 9:07:20 AM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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If he keeps the affected area cool and dry, the big blisters will come and go over 2 weeks or so. Kinda gross to look at and could leave scaring, but not life-threatening to my knowledge/experience.

Another good excuse, aside from the season, for regular doses of stiff egg-nog!

20 posted on 12/17/2005 9:09:17 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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