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US Bishops' Organization Gives Glowing Review of Homosexual-Sex Propaganda Film
LifeSite News.com ^ | 12/15/05 | Hilary White

Posted on 12/17/2005 7:19:59 AM PST by dukeman

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21 posted on 01/12/2006 4:17:26 PM PST by Coleus (IMHO, The IVF procedure is immoral & kills many embryos/children and should be outlawed)
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To: farmer18th
Christian Catholics--take back your church. Get to work.

You might just as well have admonished Christian Americans to "take back your country."

I spend every waking hour fighting for both, as do many millions of others.

22 posted on 01/12/2006 4:23:16 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: dukeman

Somebody - anybody - please send a copy of this to:
Pope Benedict XVI,
The Vatican,
Vatican City

and ask him for urgent action against US "Bishops"!


23 posted on 01/12/2006 4:24:17 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: wardaddy
They've led the pack in many cases....about the only 100% reliable churches regarding personal behavior are charismatic and Mormon

Are you talking about moral teachings or behavior? Because the Catholic Church has not wavered in its moral teachings, while many of the weak men within have. Likewise, I know a lot of immoral behaving Mormons.

24 posted on 01/12/2006 4:25:37 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: farmer18th

We're working on it, believe me.


25 posted on 01/12/2006 4:26:32 PM PST by utahagen
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To: wardaddy
"...about the only 100% reliable churches regarding personal behavior are charasmatic and Mormon"

Sorrowfully, I must point out that that charismatic churches are rife with divorce/remarriage and contraception. Don't know about the Mormons, who have a reputation for strong marriage and family life.

26 posted on 01/12/2006 4:35:52 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Thy name, O Jesus, be forever blest.)
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To: dukeman
One is reminded that one of the greatest preachers in Christendom--- St. John Chrysostom --- once said that the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops; and the two greatest artists of th Christian faith ---- Michaelangelo and Dante --- both placed bishops prominently in the flames.

But it's too easy to feel morally superior to slack bishops. Way too easy. And a sense of moral superiority is a tricky thing to get forgiven of: because you never feel you're in the wrong. Not compared to "them"!!

Lord have mercy.

OK, now, from the practical point of view: how can we prevent our loyal Catholic pew-sitter dollars from going to the USCCB?

27 posted on 01/12/2006 4:46:17 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Thy name, O Jesus, be forever blest.)
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To: dukeman

Honestly, I can't see how good Catholics can stand the pack of hireling, craven, white-washed sepulchres at the head of the church.


28 posted on 01/12/2006 4:47:06 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: dukeman

I don't trust my diocese......I have to make all my judgements myself. We are on our own.


29 posted on 01/12/2006 4:48:31 PM PST by tioga (Ashamed of Sen Chuck in the land of the Hildebeast.)
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To: trebb
Even the Catholic Church will not survive the prophesy that all the churches will become apostate. God has spoken.

Get a grip! A movie reviewer does not an Apostate Church make. There will be some Catholics who will go see the movie, which by the way is NOT about cowboys, but shepherds, but then there are some who call themselves Catholic who think nothing of supporting abortion, the homosexual lifestyle, and euthanasia. In other words, they're Catholic in name only.

Besides, Jesus told Peter that he was the Rock upon which God's Church would be built and the gates of Hell would not prevail against it.

30 posted on 01/12/2006 5:04:12 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ElkGroveDan

I'm not Catholic...and was not talking about them. I could though but prefer to mind my own business about some things I see I don't like since my dog is not in that hunt.

Charasmatics here in Nashville are pretty conservative


31 posted on 01/12/2006 5:23:26 PM PST by wardaddy (Alito is like Clapton)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I got flamed for this a few years ago but I don't put money in the collection basket precisely because some of it goes to the Bishops. I volunteer time at the parish and pay for specific things the church needs. Also I consider donations to specific causes (in our case an orphanage & school) to be our way of tithing.


32 posted on 01/12/2006 5:33:03 PM PST by Varda
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To: Aussie Dasher

"Somebody - anybody - please send a copy of this to:
Pope Benedict XVI,
The Vatican,
Vatican City

and ask him for urgent action against US "Bishops"!"

I just printed out a copy of this, but MANY of us need to do this.


33 posted on 01/12/2006 6:04:10 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: dukeman

These guys seems to have missed the big important lesson they just got. The really big tuition they paid should have helped it sink in.


34 posted on 01/12/2006 6:06:30 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: dukeman

Somewhere on FR, the Catholic Review from the USCCB was posted, and had a rating of L for limited audience. That was later changed to O for offensive, even though when reading the review, I had the distinct feeling that the reviewer seemed to have enjoyed the movie a little too much.

As some other posters on that thread seemed to think, the reviewer seemed to be suffering from swish-itis extremus.


35 posted on 01/12/2006 6:08:09 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: RoadTest

"Makes you wonder, doesn't it? What IS their agenda?"

There is political leftism, economic leftism, and theological leftism. They are facets of the same phenomenon, which is of and from Satan, and has the same agenda.

Thanks be to God, the Catholic Church has not yet lost the war with theological leftism, although, obviously, it still rages.


36 posted on 01/12/2006 8:20:12 PM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: sockmonkey

"the reviewer seemed to be suffering from swish-itis extremus."

Just one more reason that some of us are disappointed that the Holy Father hasn't seen fit to take steps to remove men who suffer from SSAD from all positions of authority and influence.


37 posted on 01/12/2006 8:22:11 PM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: Coleus
Star of the film, Australian Heath Ledger, meanwhile, criticized the move as racist.

He probably meant to say "racist, sexist, homophobic, and speciesist." (Did I forget anything?)

“Personally, I don't think the movie is (controversial) but I think maybe the Mormons in Utah do. I think it’s hilarious and very immature of a society.”

Immature? I cannot take seriously the pronouncements of someone who makes his living play-acting at perversion for a camera.

38 posted on 01/12/2006 8:23:28 PM PST by Logophile
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To: dukeman
The unnamed USCCB reviewer, in keeping with the now-standard tone of acceptance required of Catholic "progressives," walked a hair-thin line between Catholic teaching and wholehearted approval of the homosexual lifestyle. "The Catholic Church," the reviewer writes, "makes a distinction between homosexual orientation and activity, Ennis and Jack's continuing physical relationship is morally problematic."

They're good at what they do, which is why they're so dangerous.

39 posted on 01/13/2006 5:14:14 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wardaddy
They've led the pack in many cases....about the only 100% reliable churches regarding personal behavior are charasmatic and Mormon

Try reading the Catechism. You'll find its doctrines reassuring.

Chastity and homosexuality

2357
Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358
The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359
Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

The opinion of a film reviewer employed by the USCCB is not considered infallible. But reviews like this serve to sew confusion among Catholics and non-Catholics alike.

The gates of hell will not prevail against Christ's Church.

40 posted on 01/13/2006 5:21:18 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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