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I used to think of Senator Allen as the next Ronald Regan (I know there will never be another Regan, but you know what I mean). However, ever since his name has started to be thrown about as a presidential contender, he has started to do a McCain impersonation.

First he echos McCain when he recommends the president meet with that nut case Sheehan. Ignoring her anti siemetic remarks, ties to radical groups etc.

Then he votes for Warner's senate resolution which was nothing more than a nother attempt to appease the senate democrats at the expense of the war effort.

Now, he is in favor of amnesty for criminals and opposes a fence that might actually interrupt the flow of cheap illegal labor.

I thought Allen was our best hope in actually carring forward the conservative movement, but if he's gone over to the dark side, who is left. All of the other mentioned GOP contenders in 08 are pretty much RINOS. Is all lost?

1 posted on 12/17/2005 1:59:43 AM PST by NavVet
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To: NavVet

I agree with you...I am wondering if the Republicans in office and potentially so in the near future will revert to real conservatives next year, once the Presidential election looms. Trying to extend the benefit of a doubt here, perhaps they're currently rushing to be moderate for other reasons.

I do find it a problem when we can rely on them to be Republicans only in the years preceding the Presidential, however. Too many of them today have become "conservative Democrats" on many issues and it's unsettling, to say the least.


2 posted on 12/17/2005 2:31:56 AM PST by MillerCreek
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Allen should be FReeped.


5 posted on 12/17/2005 3:50:23 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: NavVet

What time is it when a RINO sits on a fence?


6 posted on 12/17/2005 3:52:58 AM PST by Caesar Soze
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Allen will never be President of the United States. This is not an era for fence sitters.


8 posted on 12/17/2005 4:06:39 AM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: NavVet

Mitt Romney might be the best there is for having conservataive cred and that is not saying much.

A semi-rino Governor of Mass being the best hope for conservatives is cause for concern.


We will have to wait till future speaker of the house Mike Pence runs for President.


10 posted on 12/17/2005 4:21:36 AM PST by johnmecainrino
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To: NavVet; All
For "Thunder on the Border," click the picture:


12 posted on 12/17/2005 4:48:31 AM PST by backhoe (The Silence of the Tom's ( Tired Old Media... ))
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Yeah it's real sad after reading this I am having real second thoughts about my Allen/Condi ticket. Maybe more like Rudy/Condi and even he is not my ultimate ticket which would be a Gen. Tommy Franks/Condi ticket or something like that. We are at war we need a "warrior" president IMHO.
14 posted on 12/17/2005 4:56:37 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: NavVet
I felt the same as you, but this is what the senate will do to the human spine. It becomes spaghetti.
16 posted on 12/17/2005 5:00:17 AM PST by Recon Dad (Force Recon Dad (and proud of it))
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

George Allen ping.

Knee. Jerk. React.

You know the drill.


28 posted on 12/17/2005 6:56:20 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (This tagline has caused a general protection fault.)
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To: NavVet

If he was like Reagan he would just late the illegal aliens march right into this country (like Reagan did)


40 posted on 12/17/2005 10:18:38 AM PST by jern
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Calm down people, you need to take a closer look at the article before you knee jerk react. Look at who wrote this article, Amanda Carpenter, an editor at human events online who clearly has it out for allen since last week. If you go back a few days she has an article where she has a misleading title, and misleads in her analysis that allen is squishy on the border. I refer you to

This article http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=10880

This thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1541095/posts

This woman is clearly spinning allen's words because no where in the actual vote that took place that the house voted on does allen have any say, this bill hasn't even reached the Senate. Also if you look into the interview instead of trusting the headline and her analysis above, allen talks about the desire to create a virtual fence which is cheaper and just as effective and goes on to discuss a diffrent kind of guest worker program.

This woman is nothing more than a hack who is attempting make it seem like George Allen said or did something he did not. He is not squishy on the border, do some research, she just wants to make it seem that way to take him down a notch.

41 posted on 12/17/2005 10:19:11 AM PST by SDGOP
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gone over to the dark side ??????????? George Allen is OUR best hope in '08. This is a very difficult subject, both sides need to be heard.
57 posted on 12/17/2005 3:51:11 PM PST by maineman
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