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Hillary Clinton Booster Mad at Bill
Newsmax.com ^ | Dec. 16, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/16/2005 5:22:07 PM PST by N. Beaujon

The liberal activist whose been trying to draft Hillary Clinton into the presidential race since 2004 says her husband is ruining her chances for the 2008 nomination.

"Bill's position on trying to get her to be centrist is not relevant since 9/11," Bob Kunst tells the New York Post. "People are looking for a leader, not the same old politics."

Kunst runs the web site HillaryNow.com. He ran TV ads in New Hampshire last year in a bid to get Mrs. Clinton to run against John Kerry.

He now fears, however, that the old Clinton triangulation strategy is hurting Hillary with the party's radical base. And for that he blames Mr. Clinton, who he says is "betraying her."....


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintons; drafthillary; hillary2008; insane; liberals; machiavellian; politics; runhillary; runhillaryrun; runhillaryrunbump; runhillaryrunthump; stupid; x42
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Talk about "no guts - no glory", you're the one who pinged the mod, not me.

I pinged him on myself. I believe in the two party system - it has worked well for a couple of hundred years. If the choices are Hitlery, McInsane or a third party Conservative - I must either break with the two party system or vote for a devil. Since I don't like the options, I guess I would stay home. If someone put a gun to my head - I would vote for the liberal before I would vote for a fake Conservative.

41 posted on 12/20/2005 4:39:31 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: El Sordo; BigSkyFreeper
>So, in a race between McCain and HRC, you'd vote for HRC instead of a candidate from, say the Constitution Party?

For some reason, your comment has been rolling around in my head for a couple of weeks, so I did a little research on the Constitution Party and I like a fair amount of their platform. I do detest a couple of their planks - Anti-Free trade and Our withdrawal from the war for global freedom, Huge Planks, even so; I now think a vote for this third party would be better than either a "spite" vote for HRC or a stay at home vote.

42 posted on 12/27/2005 2:56:32 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: Sonny M

Yet your friends are still Hillary supporters. Doesn't speak well of their intellect or their judgement.


43 posted on 12/27/2005 2:58:51 PM PST by Xenalyte (Babies, before we're done here, y'all be wearin' gold-plated diapers.)
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To: Xenalyte
Doesn't speak well of their intellect or their judgement.

They have bad politics.

Worse, they are also teachers.

That said, the reasons they like her, can easily be subsituted for alot of other democrats.

But even they, unlike a lot of freepers, know her actually chances of winning a general election are slim.

44 posted on 12/27/2005 3:22:46 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: TheHound
They were just a convenient example.

I almost said "Libertarian". But that would have just gotten me all kinds of grief from certain other denizens here.

Anyways.... I am a big supporter of third party voting rather than looking at our two party system as a Hobson's choice.
45 posted on 12/27/2005 5:17:01 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: TheHound; El Sordo
For some reason, your comment has been rolling around in my head for a couple of weeks, so I did a little research on the Constitution Party and I like a fair amount of their platform. I do detest a couple of their planks - Anti-Free trade and Our withdrawal from the war for global freedom, Huge Planks, even so; I now think a vote for this third party would be better than either a "spite" vote for HRC or a stay at home vote.

Well. I'm glad the two of you have made up your mind how you intend to vote in 2008, however, just don't spend four years whining and moaning on FR because your guy didn't make it, and the entire country has to suffer through 4 years of Clinton.

As for me, I intend to stay in a holding pattern, because I sincerely loathe Hillary, I detest McCain, and I won't throw away my vote on some third-party clown that is 180 degrees out of phase with my principles on the larger issue of the War On Terror and their anti-free trade/anti-global capitalism point of view.

I'll wait and see how things pan out in the next couple years before I finally decide which way I intend to vote.

46 posted on 12/27/2005 6:39:25 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I do hope your reading comprehension improves before you make your decision.


47 posted on 12/28/2005 9:14:49 AM PST by El Sordo
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To: El Sordo
I do hope your reading comprehension improves before you make your decision.

Pound sand sh##stain.

48 posted on 12/28/2005 1:20:43 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: BigSkyFreeper

And your temper. Best work on that too.

Can't have you making impulsive decisions now, can we?


49 posted on 12/28/2005 3:24:31 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: BigSkyFreeper; El Sordo
Well. I'm glad the two of you have made up your mind how you intend to vote in 2008, however, just don't spend four years whining and moaning on FR because your guy didn't make it, and the entire country has to suffer through 4 years of Clinton.

As I implied earlier -I will not vote for McCain (never)- I would vote for HRC before that. Having been properly trashed, by you, for that logic, I ammended it to - "I will stay home". El Sordo offered his poser, and after thought, I agreed with it - If I am going to throw away my vote anyway, why not throw it to a third party conservative?

I would do so with no care that that person won (for surely he wouldn't). So I certainly wouldn't whine about it.

50 posted on 12/28/2005 4:41:29 PM PST by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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To: N. Beaujon
Sounds like Kunst just wants to bring back the days of yore when The Klintoons would throw lavish "State Diners" which were basically "look at us & how great we are" sessions.

Fools they are.

51 posted on 12/28/2005 4:49:12 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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