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Hillary Clinton Booster Mad at Bill
Newsmax.com ^ | Dec. 16, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 12/16/2005 5:22:07 PM PST by N. Beaujon

The liberal activist whose been trying to draft Hillary Clinton into the presidential race since 2004 says her husband is ruining her chances for the 2008 nomination.

"Bill's position on trying to get her to be centrist is not relevant since 9/11," Bob Kunst tells the New York Post. "People are looking for a leader, not the same old politics."

Kunst runs the web site HillaryNow.com. He ran TV ads in New Hampshire last year in a bid to get Mrs. Clinton to run against John Kerry.

He now fears, however, that the old Clinton triangulation strategy is hurting Hillary with the party's radical base. And for that he blames Mr. Clinton, who he says is "betraying her."....


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clintons; drafthillary; hillary2008; insane; liberals; machiavellian; politics; runhillary; runhillaryrun; runhillaryrunbump; runhillaryrunthump; stupid; x42
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To: N. Beaujon
Does anyone on the right or left honestly think Bill Clinton will be happy playing second fiddle to Hitlery? The guy is an egomaniac who is desperately trying to rebuild his tawdry "legacy".
21 posted on 12/16/2005 6:43:14 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Have a RamaHanuKwanzMas" - Glenn Beck (And Merry Christmas!) (... and "Happy Holidays!"))
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To: Sonny M; BigSkyFreeper

Hillary doesn't have the charm to win. Did you hear her speech at the Democratic convention last year? It was one-star awful. She needs Bill, probably more than Bill needs her.

As for the Left, they should know by now that triangulation, however offensive, is the only way they could win. They tried an unabashed leftie and he flopped hopelessly.

D


22 posted on 12/16/2005 6:46:17 PM PST by daviddennis (;)
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To: daviddennis
Hillary doesn't have the charm to win. Did you hear her speech at the Democratic convention last year? It was one-star awful.

You may (or may not) find this funny.

But I have several friends who are supporters of Hillary and went to some of her fundraisers.

Speaking is not her strong point, they compared it to fingernails across a chalkboard.

They also said that Hillary said some really weird way out there stuff at the fundraiser that left them scratching their heads and a few people confused.

Her staff is also all idiots.

23 posted on 12/16/2005 6:57:09 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: N. Beaujon

Who cares?


24 posted on 12/16/2005 6:57:59 PM PST by sport
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To: Sonny M

Triangulation isn't an easy task, even with a friendly audience.

I'm not going to say ol' Bill was a good man, but at least he had some genuine charisma, which made people forget the glaring inconsistencies in his positions.

As for her staff, that's what you get when you throw lampshades at people. The good ones quit and the lousy ones hang on.

D


25 posted on 12/16/2005 7:20:00 PM PST by daviddennis (;)
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To: TheHound

If it comes down to the two of them, the hildabeast and McPain...I won't vote. I'll sit it out before I vote for either one of those traitors.


26 posted on 12/16/2005 7:43:33 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: TheHound
So, in a race between McCain and HRC, you'd vote for HRC instead of a candidate from, say the Constitution Party?
27 posted on 12/16/2005 9:34:32 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: N. Beaujon

Bill is expendable.

He better be carefull.

If Hillary is behind and needs votes, a "my husband died" sympathy vote is not out of the question.

Billy boy, you're living on borrowed time. Your wife needs votes!


28 posted on 12/16/2005 9:39:14 PM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: manwiththehands
Does anyone on the right or left honestly think Bill Clinton will be happy playing second fiddle to Hitlery? The guy is an egomaniac who is desperately trying to rebuild his tawdry "legacy".

Maybe he'd go for it if they were sold as a team again. He was president but she got to run a lot of issues, like the health care system that was totally wack. They even fought on inauguration day over who would get the v.p.'s traditional office...her or Gore.

Who knows how much of "his" policy was really "her" policy? Sure, they hate one another, but they'd do anything for their own aggrandizement and lust for power.

Plus, they've each got the "goods" on the other.
29 posted on 12/16/2005 9:55:59 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: Sonny M
They also said that Hillary said some really weird way out there stuff at the fundraiser that left them scratching their heads and a few people confused.

IMHO, she is insane in her need for power. They both are.
30 posted on 12/16/2005 9:59:43 PM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: daviddennis
"As for her staff, that's what you get when you throw lampshades at people. The good ones quit and the lousy ones hang on."

Bingo. "In time, an employer gets the employees he deserves."
31 posted on 12/16/2005 10:01:56 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: daviddennis
As for her staff, that's what you get when you throw lampshades at people. The good ones quit and the lousy ones hang on.

Yea, but she doesn't even have the lousy ones.

What she has is a bunch of lousy incompetants who couldn't find their way out of a paper bag if you gave them a flashlight.

That is why everytime you read about her, everybody thinks its a political move, because these idiots don't know how to hide that.

32 posted on 12/16/2005 11:30:54 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: hummingbird
IMHO, she is insane in her need for power. They both are.

If you want power, you use common sense to get it or manipulate people.

My friends, have no idea why she said the things that she did.

She insulted Iowa for awhile.

She took nasty potshots at Kerry (which, like him or hate him, made no sense).

She needs better handlers otherwise she is going to shoot herself in the foot in the democratic primaries.

33 posted on 12/16/2005 11:34:30 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: TheHound
I have no interest in starting a flame war, but if I must - I will. John McCain is the worst thing that has happened to the Republican party and the Conservative movement. He is an egotistical, self-appointed demigod; when in fact he is nobody. He undermines the war for the sake of poll numbers. He is more like the Liberals than the Liberals. I will vote for a Liberal before I vote for a fake Conservative.

Any one who would vote for a Liberal is not a Conservative.

I made a vow to myself back in 1988 that I will never, EVER, waste my time or vote with a Liberal or a Democrat.

Talk about "no guts - no glory", you're the one who pinged the mod, not me.

34 posted on 12/17/2005 11:07:07 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: Sonny M; daviddennis
Speaking is not her strong point, they compared it to fingernails across a chalkboard.

That's usually my impression too. It's painful to listen to, doubly so when she starts screeching at the top of her lungs.

35 posted on 12/17/2005 11:20:20 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Luke 2 : 8-14)
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To: N. Beaujon


36 posted on 12/18/2005 10:40:39 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Sonny M
Speaking is not her strong point, they compared it to fingernails across a chalkboard.

I loved all your comments on this thread (well, most of them.) This however is the thing I always say about Shrillery. Listening to her speak is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard. She is awful. A complete tone deaf, shrew.

As for the comments about Bill. I couldnt agree more. He wants her to fail, and she is SUCH an idiot that she is still willing to follow him blindly. The reason I loathe this woman so much is that, as a female, she is a national embarrassment. Feminist my @$$. She is the ultimate dormat.

37 posted on 12/19/2005 6:42:03 AM PST by N. Beaujon (http://www.nbeaujon.com)
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To: N. Beaujon
And for that he blames Mr. Clinton, who he says is "betraying her."....

Clinton, betray his own wife? Say it isn't so! Bill could never be unfaithful to Hillary.

38 posted on 12/19/2005 6:44:58 AM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: N. Beaujon

This is the new strategy. Hillary runs to the center to gain support with centrists. At some point, the blame will be placed on Bill's influence and then she will "see the light" and run left to win the primary. Then Bill is reintroduced before the general election and she creeps back to the center.


39 posted on 12/19/2005 6:45:33 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
This is the new strategy. Hillary runs to the center to gain support with centrists. At some point, the blame will be placed on Bill's influence and then she will "see the light" and run left to win the primary. Then Bill is reintroduced before the general election and she creeps back to the center.

Boy, did you hit the nail on the head. This woman is diabolical. Imagine this type of pathological mindset running (ruining) our country. It's insane. What's even more insane is that 50% of the electorate appear to be falling for this act. If people are not smart enough to see through this woman, I'm afraid theres nothing Conservatives can do to educate them. The Catch-22 for us is that, if we expose her, she "wins" as a victim of mean spirited Republican attacks.

You want to play with the big boys Hillary? Don't play the "woe is me, poor woman" routine, you pathological fraud.

40 posted on 12/20/2005 6:14:02 AM PST by N. Beaujon (http://www.nbeaujon.com)
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