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Let's Cut & Run from War on Poverty [Brilliant Comparison between Iraq and Welfare]
Townhall.com ^ | Todd Manzi

Posted on 12/16/2005 3:49:25 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Is it Harder to Kill Terrorists or Get a Job?

By Todd Manzi

Dec 16, 2005

The position of Democrats seems to be that it is easier to hunt down and kill terrorists than it is to make a living flipping burgers. Democrats are telling us we should withdraw from Iraq, so that the Iraqis will have an incentive to stand up and fight for themselves. When it comes to the War on Poverty, however, Democrats want the federal government to continue assisting the needy indefinitely.

Which is easier, learning how to fight terrorists in Iraq or finding a way to make a living in the United States? Our steady stream of immigrants would indicate the latter, but the rhetoric of Democrats points to the former.

Perhaps it’s time to help the Democrats understand the challenge we face regarding the security of Iraq. Using a football analogy might be helpful.

Let’s say the U.S. military is like the best NFL team to ever take the field. The terrorists might be like the worst junior college team. The Iraqis who are joining the military are men who have never played football. If you just toss them the ball and tell them to go play football, they will get slaughtered. Literally.

Individually, the Iraqis need to be trained how to fight. Then they need to be trained how to fight as a team. Then they need leadership to direct them so they can properly execute big picture strategies. But that’s not enough. The trainers have to be trained so that Iraq can have a self-sufficient military.

If all the best minds in the NFL were brought together, how long would it take them to teach others how to train, field and coach a team that could compete against an already functioning junior college team?

Of course, it’s silly to compare war to football. Lives are on the line in Iraq and this is not a game. But it does serve as a reminder that our mission in Iraq is to stand by the brave men who are coming forward and putting their lives on the line to defend their country. The U.S. military provides the stability that gives Iraqi men the confidence needed to commit to the cause.

Democrats are doing their best to undermine that confidence.

They are sending the message to Iraqi men that they may lose the safety provided by our soldiers. Those who advocate immediate withdrawal are making the enormously difficult job in Iraq much harder than it already is.

Here at home, Democrats send an entirely different message to welfare recipients. The message to this group is that the federal government will stand beside them indefinitely.

For these people, Democrats want to provide unlimited support, programs and financial aid. We have a bloated bureaucracy tasked with providing unending handouts.

It is time to admit the war on poverty is a quagmire and the federal government should withdraw. The Constitution never authorized us to enter this war in the first place. Let’s send a strong message to the individual states: we are going to cut and run from the war on poverty. There is no need to point fingers about who lied us into this war. We don’t have to highlight the numerous mistakes that were made. Nor do we have to identify who benefited themselves by getting elected to office under the cover of fighting poverty. All we need to do is assess the situation and act accordingly.

Does anyone want to defend the progress or accomplishments we have made with our efforts fighting the war on poverty? Anyone?

To be fair to Democrats, let’s accurately assess the situation in Iraq and act accordingly. Four years and three months ago, the United States was attacked, and the global War on Terror began. President Bush did not bow to the pressure he was under to initiate a quick response. He acted thoughtfully, patiently and unbelievably competently.

Our first attack in the War on Terror was to cut off much of their financing. Then we took control of Afghanistan. Next, we debated whether President Bush had the authority to invade Iraq. The president asked Congress to provide the authority and they did. Then we debated whether we should go to war in Iraq or not. President Bush even took the time to go back to the U.N. to get another resolution supporting the invasion of Iraq. After all that, we still waited and gave the dictator one last chance to avoid war. That was the first year and a half of our War on Terror.

Next, we defeated the Iraqi army and took control of the country. We hunted down the tyrant and pulled him from his rat hole. We handed over sovereignty of the country to the Iraqi people. We provided stability as they had elections and ratified a constitution. Now, we are training Iraqis in how to train themselves to do the job of keeping their own country safe from future terrorist threats.

Wow.

We have accomplished a lot in a short period. The War on Terror has been much more successful than the war on poverty, but both of these wars should end as soon as possible. How about if we compromise with the Democrats? As we draw down our troop levels in Iraq, we will also reduce the size of our federal welfare bureaucracy. On the day we are completely out of Iraq, we will also completely eliminate all federal welfare.

Democrats have proposed the theory that a group of people will not become independent and self-sufficient if they can rely on support from the U.S. government. We should test that theory here at home to see if Democrats might be right.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cutandrun; democrats; iraq; liberalphilosophy; poverty; welfare
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Why didn't I think of this?

Brilliant, funny and spot-on!

1 posted on 12/16/2005 3:49:27 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"It is time to admit the war on poverty is a quagmire and the federal government should withdraw. The Constitution never authorized us to enter this war in the first place. Let’s send a strong message to the individual states: we are going to cut and run from the war on poverty.

"Does anyone want to defend the progress or accomplishments we have made with our efforts fighting the war on poverty? Anyone?"

DING DING DING DING!


2 posted on 12/16/2005 3:51:35 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Why is it necessary to make mickey mouse analyses to deal with adult topics?

This article, which might be instructive on Sesame Street, is an embarrassment in a mature country, presumably politically mature, where the citizenry are adults, being led by the cream of the crop.

When an article makes one go "D'OH!", perhaps the problem is beyond (peaceful) repair...

3 posted on 12/16/2005 3:58:59 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Publius6961

Interesting that you had such a negative reaction. I thought the analogy to the war on poverty was a brilliant stroke that I had not seen elsewhere. De gustibus, etc.


4 posted on 12/16/2005 4:04:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And I agree with you! Great analogy... I thought the football analogy was a bit tortured, but comparing our efforts in Iraq with the War on Poverty is brilliant. I wouldn't be surprised if Rush runs with this today.


5 posted on 12/16/2005 4:21:50 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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I thought the football analogy was a bit tortured

Please note that we are reporting this incident to Senator McCain's office.

6 posted on 12/16/2005 4:26:00 AM PST by bvw
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To: Publius6961
Why not?

No matter how you phrase it or debate it the democrats interest are keeping fellow Americans dependant, like children. Taking from those who have managed on thier own, like children. They are against helping others when it might cost something, like children, even when the benefit would be for everyone.

7 posted on 12/16/2005 4:28:02 AM PST by fml
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Why is it necessary to make mickey mouse analyses to deal with adult topics?

Because so many Democrats operate at the Mickey Mouse level. That's often why they're Democrats.

8 posted on 12/16/2005 4:29:25 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: Publius6961

D'OH is the sound a eureka makes.


9 posted on 12/16/2005 4:30:53 AM PST by Syberyenta
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

GREAT post! How I wish we could take this seriously and "run with it". But then again, what would I know about the situation? Hmmmm, just that my husband and I were able to work long enough to reach a fairly comfortable retirement.


10 posted on 12/16/2005 4:32:22 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
When the war on poverty was started by LBJ small isolated sections of certain cities were slums.

Now in many areas entire cities are slums. In fact, slums have often spread into the inner suburbs.

It is time to declare victory and pull out!

:-)
11 posted on 12/16/2005 4:33:16 AM PST by cgbg (MSM and Democratic treason--fifty years and counting...)
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To: Publius6961

D'OH is the sound a eureka makes.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 4:42:10 AM PST by Syberyenta
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To: Publius6961
Humor. Attempting ridicule of the enemy foreign and domestic. Hope it is effective, but am doubtful.

"perhaps the problem is beyond (peaceful) repair..." indeed.
13 posted on 12/16/2005 4:51:31 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! Tolerance is not a virtue!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
President Bush did not bow to the pressure he was under to initiate a quick response. He acted thoughtfully, patiently and unbelievably competently.

He has not acted "unbelievably competently"

1. We are still screening grandmas and children at airports (Norm Mineta is STILL in office!)

2. We are playing kissy-face with the so-called "Palestinian Authority" and unbelievably, with Hamas.

3. Syria and Iran actively support the Iraqi and Palestinian murder gangs while the U.S. mildly wags a finger in chastisement.

4. GWB apparently has come on board with the McCain Terrorist Coddling Act.

14 posted on 12/16/2005 5:09:48 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is brilliant thanks for the post


15 posted on 12/16/2005 5:17:06 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: Publius6961

Not to mention that it ends up supporting the concept of the Welfare State. Go figure.


16 posted on 12/16/2005 5:19:46 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: bvw

Excellent!!


17 posted on 12/16/2005 5:30:46 AM PST by doberville
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To: Uncle Fud

If Grandma's were not screened how would you dress as a terrorist?


18 posted on 12/16/2005 5:34:12 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: ReleaseTheHounds
ReleaseTheHounds replied:
I thought the football analogy was a bit tortured...
Publius6961 replied:
Why is it necessary to make mickey mouse analyses to deal with adult topics? This article, which might be instructive on Sesame Street, is an embarrassment in a mature country, presumably politically mature, where the citizenry are adults, being led by the cream of the crop.
IMHO, both of you need to consider the target audience of this article. Certainly not us!

Someone mentally deformed enough to say,

"I have a plan."
or
"War in Iraq is just plain wrong."
or
"The idea that the United States is going to win the war in Iraq is just plain wrong."
or
"We should follow the lead of Congressman John Murtha, who has put forth a plan to make American safer, to make our military stronger and to make Iraq more stable"
or
"The war in Iraq is not going as advertised. It is a flawed policy wrapped in illusion. The American public is way ahead of us. The United States and coalition troops have done all they can in Iraq, but it is time for a change in direction. Our military is suffering. The future of our country is at risk. We can not continue on the present course. It is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interest of the United States of America, the Iraqi people or the Persian Gulf Region."
(saved the best for last :) will struggle to get their mind around the philosophy expressed in this article.
19 posted on 12/16/2005 5:47:10 AM PST by upchuck (Article posts of just one or two sentences do not preserve the quality of FR. Lazy FReepers be gone!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Interesting concept -- perhaps it could apply to the "Selectively Enforced War on Drugs, Students and Parents," also.


20 posted on 12/16/2005 5:55:42 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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