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(North Florida) Five Parishes Announce they will leave ECUSA in January
Virtue Online.org ^ | 12/14/05

Posted on 12/15/2005 6:40:26 AM PST by dukeman

From the Anglican Alliance of North Florida

JACKSONVILLE, FL.--On December 12, 2005 a letter (below) was delivered to Bishop Howard which stated that during the first week of January, five congregations will transfer from the Episcopal Diocese of Florida to other provinces within the worldwide Anglican Communion. These congregations seek to remain faithful to Christ and be in full communion with the majority of the members in the larger Communion.

The congregations are Grace Church in Orange Park, St. Luke's Community of Life in Tallahassee, St. Michael's in Gainesville, and Redeemer and All Souls both in Jacksonville. St. Michael's will be renamed Servants of Christ.

They are realigning variously with the different overseas Anglican provinces. Other congregations in the Diocese of Florida are planning to take similar actions in the next few months.

The congregations are not joining any other denomination, but instead are remaining faithful Anglicans. They are members of the Anglican Alliance of North Florida which was formed in September 2005 to provide Biblically-centered churches and clergy in the Anglican Communion a framework for unified witness and ministry in North Florida.

Since its inception, the AANF has grown to represent fourteen congregations and forty priests in the North Florida area. www.anglicanalliancenf.org

Three of the parishes have been facing an imminent threat from the bishop and leadership of the diocese to take over these congregations, an action that is not mandatory according to church law. These parishes out of conscience stopped their voluntary pledging when the diocese continued to support the national Episcopal Church after General Convention 2003.

The Rev. Neil G. Lebhar, Rector of Church of the Redeemer, said, "We have sadly watched firsthand as theological and moral decay advanced within the Episcopal Church. One of the marks of a true church is the ability to exercise both doctrinal and ethical discipline, a mark increasingly absent in the Episcopal Church.

The Episcopal Church's unbiblical actions and failures to act have splintered the Anglican Communion.

As a recent article in Episcopal Life made clear, the Episcopal Church has begun heading down the road to heresy. (David Steinmetz, "World Christianity: Under New Management?") It has been unwilling to turn around, despite repeated appeals from inside the larger Anglican Communion and from other concerned Christian churches around the world.

Bishop Howard has told many privately and publicly that he expects no full reversal of the General Convention's decisions in the foreseeable future." Lebhar continued, "We deeply regret that the Diocese of Florida has failed to take the kind of sacrificial actions which would align it publicly with the vast majority of the Anglican Communion.

Instead it has remained financially and sacramentally in partnership with those who have ignored the historic traditions of the church, and the Faith once delivered to the saints. At the same time, we pledge ourselves to pray for our faithful brothers and sisters in the diocese, and ask their prayers during this tragic season."

The congregations are joining three others which have already transferred from the diocese in order to maintain ties with the larger Anglican Communion: Calvary Church in Jacksonville, Anglican Fellowship of High Springs (parishioners from St. Bartholomew's) and St. Peter's Church (the significant majority of the former staff and active parishioners of St. John's), in Tallahassee.

The realigning congregations also believe that the Episcopal Church has overtly abandoned its claim to its historic roots and its place in the worldwide Anglican Communion and therefore it has relinquished any claims over the property and resources which the congregations paid for and steward.

St. Luke's leases its property and will continue to do so according to conversations with the diocesan office. One parish may begin worship on another site while they await resolution.

The congregations do not believe that they should be forced to leave or lose their claim to their parish property because it is the Episcopal Church's leadership which has caused this sad division.

The letter asks the bishop to negotiate the properties in good faith, using mediation if necessary because of the parishes' sincere desire to prevent litigation.

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Letter to Bishop Howard: December 12, 2005

The Rt. Rev. Samuel Johnson Howard
Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Florida 325 Market Street
Jacksonville, Florida 32202

Dear Bishop Howard:

I had hoped to have some meaningful dialogue with you before now toward the resolution of various matters associated with the realignment of All Souls, Redeemer, Grace, St. Michael's and St. Luke's Community of Life (hereinafter referred to collectively as the congregations) with other jurisdictions within the Anglican Communion.

I am disappointed that, despite our attempts to meet with you, this has not happened. We truly made, and continue to make, every effort to comply with your desire to have this transition underway by year end, but our lack of conversation obviously makes this very difficult. So, at this time, the five congregations make the following proposal.

On January 1, 2006, all of the clergy affiliated with these congregations shall arrange for oversight from other Bishops within the worldwide Anglican Communion. We will be requesting that you simply transfer them without ecclesiastical fanfare or contention.

Although you have suggested in the past that you are without the authority to do this, I have thoroughly studied the applicable canons and respectfully disagree. For precedence for this type of transfer, you need look no farther than the Dioceses of Central Florida and South Carolina. These respected Bishops made similar transfers.

As for the four parishes themselves, we propose that each keep the property which they presently occupy, and rightfully feel they already own since it is the parishioners who have built and paid for the properties believing that the Diocese and ECUSA would remain true to the Faith once delivered and to the core doctrines and ethics of the Anglican Communion and the Christian faith.

Unfortunately, ECUSA has recently, in effect, begun a departure from full communion with most Anglicans worldwide, and you have said publicly that you do not expect a significant reversal of the Episcopal Church's direction.

You have also stated that you would never leave ECUSA. Some of the properties have significant debt/mortgages which the congregations willingly accept.

Furthermore, to be fair to the Diocese, each parish will gladly reimburse the Diocese for any Diocesan contributions that may have been made toward the purchase and improvements upon the properties.

We will release the Diocese from any further legal obligations or liabilities associated with these properties, and we will pay all necessary legal costs incurred in the process.

We believe this proposal is fair and equitable and serves the best interests of all parties involved. Most importantly, it provides for a speedy resolution to this conflict and allows the parishes to return without delay to the mission to which they were first called, to the orthodox worship of God, remaining true to the Gospel of Christ.

We will make every effort to meet with you on any date and time you find convenient.

Also, in order to honor scripture and perhaps avoid needless litigation, we are willing to engage in the mediation process to work out the necessary details. I look forward to hearing from you.

Respectfully,

David P. Dearing


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: ecusa; fallout; homosexualagenda; homosexualbishop; schism
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1 posted on 12/15/2005 6:40:28 AM PST by dukeman
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To: dukeman
Interesting to see if the diocese is willing to give up the property.
2 posted on 12/15/2005 6:46:09 AM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: sionnsar

ping


3 posted on 12/15/2005 6:48:38 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Fido969

Bishop Robinson's chickens coming home to roost. Just a few weeks ago he was talking about the large numbers of Catholics who ar coming over to his church. No mention about the larger number of his church who are fleeing.


5 posted on 12/15/2005 6:49:20 AM PST by Andyman ("Where are the other nine?" Luke 17:11-19)
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To: dukeman
Big lawsuits coming. The Episcopal Church of the USA owns that real estate. I am not a lawyer but I suspect the parishioners do not even have legal standing in a lawsuit by the owner demanding the removal of squatters. Need a good legal team to keep the fight from getting mean.
7 posted on 12/15/2005 6:50:11 AM PST by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! Tolerance is not a virtue!)
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To: dukeman

The article fails to mention the word gay or homosexuality.


8 posted on 12/15/2005 6:52:46 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Iris7

They don't necessarily own it. Look at the situation in Ca.


9 posted on 12/15/2005 6:52:48 AM PST by Ford4000
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To: dukeman

This fight will all come down to - Who owns the property...


10 posted on 12/15/2005 6:53:41 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Andyman
Bishop Robinson's chickens coming home to roost. Just a few weeks ago he was talking about the large numbers of Catholics who ar coming over to his church. No mention about the larger number of his church who are fleeing

Episcopalians face up to decline

11 posted on 12/15/2005 6:53:47 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Ford4000; Iris7; 2banana
Resolving the property ownership issue will certainly be key. The recent CA case may be helpful to these congregations, but not so much if it depends upon any unique aspects of CA law. I'm hopeful that legal help could come from a group like the Alliance Defense Fund, the Becket Fund, or the American Center for Law & Justice.

It's sad to see any church schism, but God is at work on His threshing floor separating wheat from chaff(sp?) and pain is inevitable.

12 posted on 12/15/2005 7:07:02 AM PST by dukeman
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To: Dane

I like your posts. In our parish we got a rather conservative pastor a couple of years ago. The number of parishoners immediatly began to decline, until about 9 months ago. Now we're growing. We're now a larger parish than we were two years ago.

Living in Utah, it is hard not to miss the message of the LDS church. They are conservative, demand a lot from their flock, and are growing like crazy.


13 posted on 12/15/2005 7:11:29 AM PST by Andyman ("Where are the other nine?" Luke 17:11-19)
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To: Andyman
I like your posts.In our parish we got a rather conservative pastor a couple of years ago. The number of parishoners immediatly began to decline, until about 9 months ago. Now we're growing. We're now a larger parish than we were two years ago.

Thank you.

Truly hope your parish grows more in numbers(I'm surmising you are Episcopalian). I'm born and raised Catholic, but reading of the liberal infection to the Episcopal church on FR, I am very sympathetic to the plight of modern traditional and conservative Episcopalians.

14 posted on 12/15/2005 7:21:09 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Iris7
The property titles are quite muddled in the ECUSA whether the parish or the diocese owns the property. The national church does not own any of the parish properties.

The problem the ECUSA will have in claiming in Florida that the diocese is the clear owner of the property is that it sets precedent for property ownership when the handful of conservative diocesese secede.

15 posted on 12/15/2005 7:25:42 AM PST by writmeister
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To: Andyman

Likewise, here in North Texas, those parishes with conservative priests are also growing.


16 posted on 12/15/2005 7:27:02 AM PST by writmeister
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To: dukeman; Dane
Already posted here.
17 posted on 12/15/2005 7:36:22 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: Dane

I'm Catholic. For 6 years now. Before that I was not much of anything. I'm even a state office holder for the Knights of Columbus. Never would have imagined THAT 7 years ago. I feel for the Episcopalians though, feel sad for them becuase what a few have done to their church. They will have to rise up and take their church back.


18 posted on 12/15/2005 9:20:10 AM PST by Andyman ("Where are the other nine?" Luke 17:11-19)
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To: sionnsar

Thank God you're on the case, looking for dupes.


19 posted on 12/15/2005 10:13:41 AM PST by dukeman
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To: dukeman; Dane; TonyRo76; Admin Moderator
Thank God you're on the case, looking for dupes.

Given all those who ping me to reposted articles I'd previously dug up, posted and pinged, I guess I'm wondering whether:

1) I should just wait for others to post first (would save me much time), or
2) I can just give up pinging the list (would save me time).

But then again, despite a certain recent "warning" from the Mods, there seems to be no concern about dupes given the number I see these days on FR. So you've got the complete right of it. Post away. If I don't ping the list -- there may be a reason.

20 posted on 12/15/2005 6:53:39 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || To Libs: You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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