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Ukraine may host US radars
Monsters and Critics ^ | Dec 13, 2005 | Martin Sieff

Posted on 12/14/2005 10:27:43 AM PST by Lukasz

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1 posted on 12/14/2005 10:27:43 AM PST by Lukasz
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2 posted on 12/14/2005 10:28:26 AM PST by Lukasz
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wow

that would be something


3 posted on 12/14/2005 10:34:23 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Lukasz
Could be a bargaining chip for the US. Russia sells weapons and technology to Iran, we accept Ukraine's offer.
4 posted on 12/14/2005 10:35:27 AM PST by dhs12345 (w)
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To: Lukasz
Pooti is going to be delighted!


5 posted on 12/14/2005 10:38:42 AM PST by lizol
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SS-18 Satan

That's one heckuva designation for a weapon system!


6 posted on 12/14/2005 10:39:14 AM PST by Sax
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I would like to see it, no matter what Russia is actually doing.


7 posted on 12/14/2005 10:40:26 AM PST by Lukasz
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So the Ukraine would host Russian Nukes and US Radars?

Geez, we could set radars directly adjacent to the silos and include webcams.


8 posted on 12/14/2005 10:43:12 AM PST by Sax
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It's an ICBM, it deserves it.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/icbm/r-36m.htm


9 posted on 12/14/2005 10:43:42 AM PST by rattrap
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Agreed. We forget sometimes that our friends are friends and not pawns to be used.


10 posted on 12/14/2005 10:43:54 AM PST by dhs12345 (w)
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Yep, I love FAS.org.


11 posted on 12/14/2005 10:44:39 AM PST by Sax
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12 posted on 12/14/2005 11:11:40 AM PST by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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To: Lukasz

This is perfectly fair game. Russia has a right to charge market prices for its gas and oil. Ukraine has a right to enter into military alliance with the US. Whether it's done in retaliation for Russian position on gas or for other reasons (or combination of them), in the end, if countries defend their national interests using legitimate means, it's a welcome sign.


13 posted on 12/14/2005 11:18:18 AM PST by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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Russia has a right to charge market prices for its gas and oil.

Russia has this right, when they will make new deal with Ukraine. Now they should respect contract that they themselves signed.

14 posted on 12/14/2005 11:24:36 AM PST by Lukasz
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I would like to see this (the radar station) as a mark of increased cooperation, but not as any pressure against Russia.

We have reasonably good relations with Russia, and we should continue to build on them; we should avoid getting involved in Ukrainian-Russian disputes, we will only wind up the loser. Rather, we should be open and above-board with both, we should not build a relationship that is hostage to the current state of affairs between the two, which can and will vary widely over time.

I would like to see increased contact between US and Ukrainian forces, and between US and Russian forces as well. Our ultimate adversaries are neither of them, and if we should ever have to confront those "ultimate" adversaries, we will need the cooperation of both Russia and Ukraine. Its not either-or, its both, hopefully.


15 posted on 12/14/2005 11:31:49 AM PST by marron
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Russia has this right, when they will make new deal with Ukraine. Now they should respect contract that they themselves signed.

The contract expires on 12-31-2005 so as of 01-01-2006, the contract is no longer valid.

16 posted on 12/14/2005 11:34:43 AM PST by sergey1973 (Russian American Political Blogger, Arm Chair Strategist)
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I would like to see this (the radar station) as a mark of increased cooperation, but not as any pressure against Russia.

Russia, Russia, Russia… It is Ukrainian territory and the Russian question/problem shouldn’t even be discussed as a matter of respect to the host country.

I understand your point and has nothing against. But I’m also aware that this cooperation depends rather from Russian will. There is no will on their side to any closer cooperation IMHO.

17 posted on 12/14/2005 11:54:26 AM PST by Lukasz
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Are you sure? http://pro-consulting.com.ua/news/2005/07/15/_naftogaz_do_2009_go_2317.html

Whatever, this doesn't change my opinion on this subject.

18 posted on 12/14/2005 12:00:45 PM PST by Lukasz
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Putin could just kill yushenko. Also, the Ukranian military is very opposed to US interference.


19 posted on 12/14/2005 12:58:32 PM PST by Thunder90
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Poland is where our new missile defense system is going I believe.

Red6


20 posted on 12/14/2005 12:59:48 PM PST by Red6
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