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Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
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| Dec. 13, 2005
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Posted on 12/13/2005 9:23:22 PM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly
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To: Grut
My BS meter is beeping. So's mine. I can't find any attribution in the NewsMax story, or any sign of the 'e-mail' in the WaPo.
You can turn off your BS meters. Do you really think NewsMax would fabricate direct quotes?
Here's the link. Fonda was interviewed for the Washington Post's weekend section via email.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/08/AR2005120800686.html
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
She is the sole resident of "Planet Jane".
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Kerry was there(at the secret meeting), too!
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posted on
12/13/2005 10:25:52 PM PST
by
Nasty McPhilthy
(Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
To: Carl/NewsMax
124
posted on
12/13/2005 10:29:36 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: grey_whiskers
"Why is she not in leg irons. Tell me why."
HanoiJane is stuck on TREASON while some people are stuck on stupid. Come to think of it perhaps she fits both statement!
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posted on
12/13/2005 10:30:47 PM PST
by
Rabble
(Just When is John F sKerry going to release his USNR military records ?)
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Her statement shows complete ignorance. It was beginning in Vietnam that our military starting paying more attention to ways to reduce civilian casualties. In WWII we destroyed entire cities, hundreds of thousands of civilians, with an abandon that would be unthinkable now. That's a good part of the reason it's taking so long to win in Iraq; domestic politics and the media handcuff our military.
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
I see dingbat is still parading the S. L. A. Marshall myth...and an erroneous interpretation of the Army's reponse.
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posted on
12/13/2005 10:39:17 PM PST
by
jess35
To: M. Espinola
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
It's nice that Fonda is finally bragging about our service peopel!
129
posted on
12/13/2005 10:50:11 PM PST
by
nickcarraway
(I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
The real Hanoi Jane Fonda comes out. She could no more stay in the closet than could a 500 lb bomb detonation.
She's still as subversive and air-headed as she always was.
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly; Laurita; CMS; The Sailor; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...
"...Recalling the "Winter Soldier" hearings that she and John Kerry staged in 1971, Fonda lamented: "When you put young people into an atrocity-producing situation where enemy and civilian are commingled, where the 'other side' is dehumanized, we cannot be surprised..."
From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. 65-June 66
Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you cant live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you wont have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you wont have to deal with having been there.
- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time.
And those things happen."

Free online version of
hanoi kerry's playbook "The New Soldier"
You can read it online right now.




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posted on
12/13/2005 11:05:46 PM PST
by
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(Be wary of the "Move On FReepers" who scream and howl "Move On Tonk, Get Over It")
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Go get 'em Tonk! Let the big dawg hunt.
132
posted on
12/13/2005 11:10:29 PM PST
by
carl in alaska
(Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry's speeches are just one big snore.)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; doesnt suffer fools gladly; All
!!
133
posted on
12/13/2005 11:23:17 PM PST
by
Gucho
To: Carl/NewsMax
Do you really think NewsMax would fabricate direct quotes? Well, it appears I was wrong. But articles citing e-mails as sources are not, generally, very credible. Too many fake e-mails floating around out there.
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posted on
12/13/2005 11:27:47 PM PST
by
Grut
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All


Hanoi Jane Fonda applauding an NVA anti-aircraft gun crew. These guns were used to shoot down American planes and contributed to the deaths of American Airmen.
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posted on
12/13/2005 11:34:16 PM PST
by
Gucho
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
"Hanoi Jane" Fonda is claiming that ever since Vietnam, U.S. troops have been trained to commit atrocities against innocent civilians as a matter of military policy. Jane Fonda is a traitorous whore.
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posted on
12/13/2005 11:38:45 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Carl/NewsMax
You can turn off your BS meters. Do you really think NewsMax would fabricate direct quotes?Possibly not, but what NewsMax has done in this particular case is to take authentic Fonda comments about the "post-Korea" Army that fought in Vietnam (e.g. "killing machines") and then used a deceptive banner, " Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are (present tense) Killing Machines", to create the appearance that Hanoi Jane was "up to her old tricks" relative to GIs currently fighting the War on Terror. Not to say that Fonda may not feel that today's soldiers are also "killing machines", but I don't like NewMax "poetic license" any more than I like the MSM equivalent.
To: paul51
Right there withya....
Is ten yrs USMC enough???
Cheers!
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posted on
12/13/2005 11:39:31 PM PST
by
DragonMarine
(Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...)
To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines' why, yes... yes we are...
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posted on
12/13/2005 11:40:21 PM PST
by
g'nad
To: Cogadh na Sith
OK. If we are such 'Killing Machines', how come she isn't afraid to say something like this? The very fact that she can freely make this accusation shows it isn't true! We're killing machines, but we cower at the likes of Jane Fonda and Jean F'n Kerry.
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