1 posted on
12/13/2005 8:34:29 PM PST by
tbird5
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To: tbird5
There is NO problem with God, except for your own... as you are bound to discover one day.
2 posted on
12/13/2005 8:39:52 PM PST by
clee1
(We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
To: tbird5
He always resorts to name calling. Sad little man.
To: tbird5
Boy, that is really childish. He thinks science can be taken on faith, because it has peer review. Guess he does not have even a rudimentary knowledge of all the fraud by scientists, all the revised scientific beliefs throughout time. I remember the dinosaur at the museum where for 100 years the scientists had the head at the end of the tail bone.
Why should scientists care what people believe with respect to religion? This is the problem, the secular arrogance of atheistic scientists. I seriously doubt these scientists have ever investigated a religious claim scientifically, they just "know" it is all nonsense.
I think any scientist who dismisses thoughts about the ultimate meaning behind the universe is a very shallow thinker. A good scientist knows the limitations of his vocation.
4 posted on
12/13/2005 8:40:59 PM PST by
Williams
To: tbird5
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed reading the interview. Dawkins is fun to read and I must admit, I agree with everything he said in this interview.
6 posted on
12/13/2005 8:47:37 PM PST by
shempy
(EABOF)
To: tbird5
INTREP - Richard Dawkins is one of the biggest hypocrites there is
7 posted on
12/13/2005 8:48:01 PM PST by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America)
To: tbird5
God did it all 1-2-3.
The proof is everywhere.
9 posted on
12/13/2005 8:51:08 PM PST by
Baraonda
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To: tbird5
Trusting someone or something sounds like putting your faith in them/it to me. Isn't he also relying on their authority? He obviously wants science to be taught from a purely secular humanist viewpoint. That's an agenda along with this...
My book, "Unweaving the Rainbow," is an attempt to elevate science to the level of poetry and to show how one can bein a funny sort of wayrather spiritual about science. Not in a supernatural sense, but there are uplifting mysteries to be solved. The contemplation of the size and scale of the universe, of the depth of geological time, of the complexity of life--these all, to me, have an inspirational quality. It makes my life worthwhile to study them.
Sounds like he's just substituting one religion with another.
10 posted on
12/13/2005 8:55:32 PM PST by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: tbird5
The problem with the empericist approach is that it's incomplete.
There are simple conjectures we can make that can never be proved true or false, that doesn't mean they are "neither true nor false", but that we can't ever know them.
And that opens a realm as big, if not bigger, than the known universe.
11 posted on
12/13/2005 8:56:10 PM PST by
djf
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12 posted on
12/13/2005 8:58:48 PM PST by
GarySpFc
(De Oppresso Liber)
To: tbird5
Understanding evolution led him to be an atheist. There's an interesting empirical proof for you. This guy basically believes that whenever science explains something, it proves the nonexistence of a God or reason behind the universe. I'd like to know how that foillows logically.
Funny, but when science can't see beyond the Big Bang, or inside a black hole, or determine the precise location of a quantum particle - he doesn't then conclude the existence of a God??? And these are not things science hasn't answered yet - science has determined these things are unknowable. Some would find that unknowable mystery to be the definition of God.
14 posted on
12/13/2005 9:01:26 PM PST by
Williams
To: tbird5
Science doesn't - can't - answer questions of faith (truth). Religion doesn't address questions of science (fact). I honestly believe that people of faith belittle what faith is about when they seek to have the blessing of science.
If we people of faith decided that Love did not exist unless it were scientifically proven to be so, wouldn't we be turning our back on what Love is?
I actually think Dawkins did a pretty good job of keeping both apart, until this eruption:
Well, of course it is. Wouldnt it be lovely to believe in an imaginary friend who listens to your thoughts, listens to your prayers, comforts you, consoles you, gives you life after death, can give you advice? Of course its satisfying, if you can believe it. But who wants to believe a lie?
NOT scientific, Dawkins. Keep to what science is about, and stop applying it to matters of faith.
18 posted on
12/13/2005 9:10:07 PM PST by
wigswest
To: tbird5
After reading part of that I think we have a bunch of R. Dawkins juniors on the evo threads.
Wolf
20 posted on
12/13/2005 9:11:42 PM PST by
RunningWolf
(Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
To: tbird5
For tomorrow ===> Placemarker <===
22 posted on
12/13/2005 9:12:08 PM PST by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: tbird5
For those who wonder why there is a desire to teach ID in schools. People like this have framed the debate as science OR religion and claim that science disproves religion. When that happens, don't be surprised if people pick religion and are willing to toss science over the wall.
To: tbird5
"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom." ___ Albert Einstein
"What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking personwith a feeling of "humility." This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism" ___ Albert Einstein
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein
"Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941
28 posted on
12/13/2005 9:27:13 PM PST by
Windsong
(Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
To: tbird5
...well, if theyre so complicated, how could they possibly have been designed? Because the designer would have to be even more complicated. This is just another example of Richard Dawkin's attempting indirect deception, aimed at those who have not been exposed to a general understanding of God as creator.
Could it be that God is indeed even more complex than His creation? Or that God is even more complex and intelligent than Dawkins.
Is it possible that Dawkins however might be more complex the books he writes?
Of course the fact that Dawkins would balk at a God that is more complex than His creation is silly...as if that would somehow be a problem.
Incredibly, Dawkins says this in all seriousness.
29 posted on
12/13/2005 9:36:20 PM PST by
Old Landmarks
(No fear of man, none!)
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12/14/2005 7:00:17 AM PST by
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43 posted on
12/14/2005 7:41:04 AM PST by
wallcrawlr
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To: tbird5
I think his evidence comes up short.
47 posted on
12/14/2005 8:32:55 AM PST by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
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To: tbird5
It's quite telling when a person spends so much time and effort trying to convince you that someone doesn't exist.
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