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Canada shrugs off U.S. warning to back off
Reuters via Yahoo! ^ | December 13, 2005 | Randall Palmer and Allan Dowd

Posted on 12/13/2005 5:42:26 PM PST by Brilliant

OTTAWA/SURREY, British Columbia (Reuters) - The United States made an unprecedented foray into Canada's election campaign on Tuesday, warning politicians not to bash Washington in their bid to win the January 23 election.

But an unapologetic Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin responded immediately by saying "c'est la vie" -- that's life -- if the United States did not like his remarks, and he would not accept anyone telling him he cannot defend his country.

In a hard-hitting speech in Ottawa, U.S. Ambassador David Wilkins lamented what he called relentless and incessant criticism of his country, which he speculated might begin to sow doubt about the strength of the binational relationship.

"Canada never has to tear the United States down to build itself up," Wilkins said.

"It may be smart election politics to thump your chest and constantly criticize your friend and your No. 1 trading partner. But it's a slippery slope and all of us should hope it doesn't have a long-term impact on our relationship."

Wilkins did not name the prime minister directly, but he specifically targeted a comment made last week at the Montreal climate change conference in which Martin called on the United States to heed a "global conscience" and join efforts to combat global warming.

That remark -- on top of criticism of U.S. policy on lumber, guns, passports and Iraq -- appeared to have riled the White House the most, particularly since Canada has a proportionally worse record than the United States on reining in greenhouse gas emissions.

"I would respectfully submit to you that when it comes to a 'global conscience' the United States is walking the walk," Wilkins said, addressing the Canadian Club of Ottawa.

"And when it comes to climate change, we are making significant progress, greater progress than many of those who have been most critical of the U.S."

In the campaign for the June 2004 election Martin regularly said Canada did not want U.S.-style health care, fiscal deficits, taxes or attack ads.

But in the last several months, particularly in frustration over U.S. refusal to eliminate duties on Canadian softwood, he has made more direct attacks on U.S. policy, and continued to do so during the election campaign.

Martin refused to back down on Tuesday in Surrey, British Columbia.

"That our friends do not like what we say -- well, c'est la vie. I'm going to defend Canada and I'm right on softwood lumber and I'm right on climate change and I won't let anybody tell me that I should not defend my country," he said.

He also dismissed the idea that he was trying to single out Washington as part of his election campaign.

"I have not made the United States or any country a target in this campaign," he said, noting that he had outlined Canada's stand on softwood lumber and climate change long before the election was called.

Martin, whose minority government was brought down on November 28 after an official report detailed Liberal kickbacks which were used in election campaigns, currently leads Conservative leader Stephen Harper in the polls but not by enough to regain a majority in Parliament.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: americahaters; americastoupee; annexation; blamecanada; bushhaters; canada; canuckistan; davidwilkins; usembassy
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To: Brilliant
In the campaign for the June 2004 election Martin regularly said Canada did not want U.S.-style health care....

the Supreme Court of Canada...... issued an opinion last Thursday saying, in effect, that Canada's vaunted public health-care system produces intolerable inequality...... The court's decision strikes down a Quebec law banning private medical insurance and is bound to upend similar laws in other provinces. Canada is the only nation other than Cuba and North Korea that bans private health insurance, ......... "Access to a waiting list is not access to health care," wrote Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin for the 4-3 Court last week. Canadians wait an average of 17.9 weeks for surgery and other therapeutic treatments, ...... The waits would be even longer if Canadians didn't have access to the U.S. as a medical-care safety valve.

If the U.S.wants to reduce Canada to the level of a begging supplicant, all it has to do is outlaw travel from Canada for the purpose of medical treatment allegedly available in Canada.

21 posted on 12/13/2005 6:04:48 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Brilliant

Some of the best doctors in the Bay Area of Kalifornicate, escaped from the Canadian "health system"...

Their loss, our gain..

I wonder why they left that socialist paradise ????????

Semper Fi


22 posted on 12/13/2005 6:07:37 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: xmission
Not to worry.
Pepper spray has a shelf life, and they will just try to get high with the confiscated chemicals.
If you point a butter knife at them, they will surrender, but be very carefull when using this tactic.
They will expect you to provide shelter, food, health care and entertainment if you do.
23 posted on 12/13/2005 6:08:44 PM PST by sarasmom ("The French are revolting." Some phrases are true on so many levels, it's mystical!)
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To: Brilliant
Wasting away in Canukistan.... where the cuckoo bird doth hold political sway.

Tell me again why Americans should...GAF... about what those disarmed... pc... deb@lled... socialist... serfs...have to say?

Ohhhhh..... down south of...de border...down Canukistan way.

Hey! Hey! Hey!
24 posted on 12/13/2005 6:09:01 PM PST by porkchops 4 mahound (Banned in Canukistan "Si vis pacem, para bellum", If you wish peace, prepare for war.)
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To: river rat

Sounds like it might be a case of out of the frying pan and into the fire, if they moved to San Fran.


25 posted on 12/13/2005 6:09:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: sarasmom
Not to worry. Pepper spray has a shelf life, and they will just try to get high with the confiscated chemicals.

I guess they'll be reduced to blowing their nose in our general direction then!
26 posted on 12/13/2005 6:10:28 PM PST by xmission (What has four legs and an arm?... A happy pitbull)
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To: Brilliant

The community falling apart, or is this just acting?


27 posted on 12/13/2005 6:11:07 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com ("It's time for a f****** war, so join the army of hardcore")
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To: Luke21
We got enough gays. No need to annex Canada.

And besides if we annexed Canada it would be like having one giant blue state to the north. The Republicans would never win again.

28 posted on 12/13/2005 6:13:16 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: Brilliant
an unapologetic Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin responded immediately by saying...he would not accept anyone telling him he cannot defend his country.

Then the damn Canucks can shut up about us defending our country! After we build a southern wall, we should proceed straight away with building a northern one.

29 posted on 12/13/2005 6:16:45 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Yup, but if we trade NYC and New England for everything west of Ontario, we'd both be happy.


30 posted on 12/13/2005 6:20:56 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: armydawg1

Relations may be bad, but at least it occurs at a time when we don't have to worry about the Canuck military. "Fifty-four forty or fight" is no longer a necessary slogan. We can just redraw our northern boundary a bit further north whenever we wish to.


31 posted on 12/13/2005 6:21:42 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: Brilliant

"Canada never has to tear the United States down to build itself up," Wilkins said.

Yahh right, that's why their evening news runs more stories about bashing the US, than even positive news about their own country most of the time.


32 posted on 12/13/2005 6:27:11 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

The canadian women would never let that happen. They would never get any decent action if a northern wall went up.


33 posted on 12/13/2005 6:30:05 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

Paul martin is more concerned with the visible minority,
the frenchman and the first generation immigrant. All who
could give a rat's ass about America.
Just the other day somebody cornered martin when he was
walking out of a store with a christmas wreath.
The reporter asked him if he would call it a christmas wreath
or holiday wreath. Martin stammered, became flush and
was at a loss of words. He didn't want to offend the
canadian secularits (this from a guy who proclaims to
be christian). His answer......it is a 240 dollar wreath..ha ha ha. You think a moron like this cares what he says
about the united states.
Get real folks.


34 posted on 12/13/2005 6:30:18 PM PST by CelticLord (What do you expect)
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To: Brilliant
"And when it comes to climate change, we are making significant progress..."

Only an idiot would try to make Canada colder.


35 posted on 12/13/2005 6:30:27 PM PST by melt (Someday, they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: PokeyJoe

Toronto IS bashable, N & NW Ontario are not.


36 posted on 12/13/2005 6:32:40 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Argus

"I'm really tired of all the self-righteous preening about this "climate change" bilge. It's a fraud."

That, and it's hypocritical.

Paul Martin declaiming us for burning oil is like a drug pusher chastizing his clients for using drugs.

There's a simple solution to meet his concerns.

Canada can stop selling us oil.


37 posted on 12/13/2005 6:34:00 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Polybius

The Canadian health care is a big joke! My Mother-in-law has heart problems and today her DR. wanted to admit her into the hospital, but there were no f'ing beds available. Apparently she was told to go home and that they would contact her as soon as they could find a bed. But get this -she was 10th in line to get a bed -yeah 10th!

It is now almost 8 hours and now she is down to number 6!


38 posted on 12/13/2005 6:35:16 PM PST by aCDNinUSA
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To: armydawg1
While there is no hint of war between the two countries, there is clearly very bad blood circulating.

I'd respectfully disagree. Heck, half of our citizens (or more) couldn't find Canada on a map. Americans basically don't care about Canada.

39 posted on 12/13/2005 6:35:40 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Brilliant

Sadly I have observed that Canada defines inself by bashing the USA.


40 posted on 12/13/2005 6:36:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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