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US refuses to commit to avoid attacking Iran
Jerusalem Post ^ | 12/13/5 | JPOST.COM STAFF

Posted on 12/12/2005 8:17:54 PM PST by SmithL

The United States on Tuesday International Atomic Energy Agency head Mohamed ElBaradei's call to state explicitly that it has no plans to launch a military strike against Iran.

The spokesman for the State Department in Washington asserted that at this point the burden of proof lies with the Iranians, and they must follow through with their commitments to the international community.

ElBaradei claimed that an announcement in which the US insists it would not attack, might encourage Iran to cease its nuclear development plans, according to Israel Radio.

Robert Joseph, the US Secretary of State's aide said last week that he believed Iran would not back down from its nuclear ambitions and would even risk UN sanctions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flatblackglass; iran; irannukes
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To: SmithL
ElBaradei claimed that an announcement in which the US insists it would not attack, might encourage Iran to cease its nuclear development plans

The IDIOCY of the UN and it's leftist leaders leaves me speechless!!!!

41 posted on 12/12/2005 11:23:36 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: familyop
Mohamed ElBaradei gives us prime examples as to why we shouldn't trust Egypt.

It's absurd to expect any damn Muslim to clamp down on a Muslim nation developing nuclear weapons. Ain't gonna happen. If by some wild chance this El Baradei told the truth about Iran his family would be in danger

42 posted on 12/12/2005 11:30:53 PM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: babygene
How can Israel "handle" Iran "pretty easily"?"... They have kicked Raghead's a$$ before...

Sounds good. But wait, be careful, you're sounding like a Serb. /sarcasm
43 posted on 12/12/2005 11:56:09 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: babygene; LjubivojeRadosavljevic
"Iranians are not Arabs" 

Actually Iran does an Arab minority of 5-10%. Some Iranians I've met are indistinguishable from Arabs while some are as fair as Greeks or Italians

44 posted on 12/13/2005 12:00:18 AM PST by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: dennisw
["Some Iranians I've met are indistinguishable from Arabs while some are as fair as Greeks or Italians."]

True. Perhaps, " Mediterranean" would be a more approprite general description to what you are alluding to.
45 posted on 12/13/2005 12:53:29 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: SmithL

ElBaraedi's got a lot of dirt on his hands, having facilitated Iran's nuclear ambitions and orchestrating this deadly charade. Soon there will be buckets of blood on those hands. Hopefully much will be his own.


46 posted on 12/13/2005 1:11:26 AM PST by 4woodenboats (I've got "Oh Holy Night" stuck in my head. Hum a few bars with me, will ya?)
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To: CurlyBill

We're going to need to slide the Isrealis some stealth cruise missiles and 1KT bunker-busters...devoid of any U.S. markings, of course.


47 posted on 12/13/2005 1:14:07 AM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
I haven't looked up all the logistical probabilities but Israel always has contingency plans for any Middle-East Country that poses a threat. They actually have a 4 simultaneous war readiness plan which includes Iran. There is a reason that no country has been able to "Wipe Israel Off The Map".
48 posted on 12/13/2005 4:50:09 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: SmithL

We have a group of Iranians moving in across the street. They claim to have been in this country for 17 yrs. I told my Wife, we'll keep an eye on them, just in case.


49 posted on 12/13/2005 5:37:16 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Good one! It is ashamed that no one would tell this fool exactly what you said.
50 posted on 12/13/2005 5:39:50 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: SmithL
Someone should explain to ElBaradei that the ONLY reason Nazi Germany did not acquire nuclear weapons was not because of Neville Chamberlain's pronouncements, but because of the use of military force. No sense reinventing the wheel.
51 posted on 12/13/2005 5:43:04 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: babygene

You have not looked at the map, have you. I don't think you know Middle East geogrpahy.

Israel can't reach, Iran. Iraq is in the way. Saudi Arabia is in the way. Syria is in the way. Jordan is in the way. Iran is way too far away for Israel "to handle" Iran (and, vice versa). Do you know how many miles Iran is from Israel? Do you know how big Iran is? Do you know how many miles the center of Iran is from Israel? Do you know how many miles the northern and eastern edges of Iran is from Israel?

Re "sorties"--you are wrong. The distance to Iran is so far that what aircraft can reach Iran do not have much loiter time. You can't effectively attack Iran from Israel conventionally. A quick tactical nuke strike--yes(even that is problematic in some parts of Iran). A sustained air campaign--can't be done.

Your problem is that you don't know the geography of the Middle East.


52 posted on 12/13/2005 5:45:03 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: tobyhill

......I think Israel can handle Iran and Syria pretty easily simultaneously .......

Israel can not handle Iran. It can dispose of Syrian leadership but can do nothing to significantly harm Iran.

It will be destroyed long before it can win.


53 posted on 12/13/2005 5:49:10 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Franks in '08)
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To: tobyhill; babygene
See post #52.

The 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 Middle East Wars were fought on Israel's borders. Israel has never attacked Iran. Fighting 1000 miles away from Israel? That has not been done and can't be done, as Israel's and Iran's forces do not have long-range force projection abilities.

"Babygene" said Israel can "field a 1,000,000 man Army". I don't think a lot of you are looking at the geography of the area. It is impossible for Israel to get into a land war with Iran. An air war will not work either; the range is too far.

The only type of war (if ever) between these two nations would be a missile war. Let's hope they are not nuke-tipped missiles.

54 posted on 12/13/2005 6:08:20 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: libertyman

The Shah of Iran fled into exile in 1979, after increasing riots filled the country. Ayatollah Khomeini, who had thoughtfully been provided a place to stay by the French, returned and took over the country.

This was during Jimmy Carter's presidency. Most observers held him largely responsible. He did nothing to help or support the Shah, but instead he and the western press painted the Shah as a corrupt king who was better gone. Carter supported the return of Khomeini. All the liberals in America were rubbing their hands with delight that that corrupt Shah had been gotten rid of.

What was the Shah's offense? Partly that he was a big spender and a fancy liver. But mostly because he tried to modernize Iran, give rights to women, and things like that. If the U.S. had had a stronger and more capable president, the whole Iranian revolution might have been dealt with very differently.


55 posted on 12/13/2005 6:38:21 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Got to wonder if like France promised Saddam he would be protected maybe Russia has promised the same to the Mooolahs of Iran.
56 posted on 12/13/2005 6:41:14 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Israel already has Air Craft Carriers, Warships and Submarines on deployment in the Arabian Sea with probably 10-20,000 troops along with probably thousands of missiles and artillery rounds ready for action. You are right that it would be a missile war initially until Israel is able to get hundreds of thousands of troops on Iranian Soil from the south. Logistically Iran would have a much tougher time getting to Israel than Vice-Versa. My notion that it would be a cakewalk for Israel is out of line but Israel is more than competent to take care of Iran.
57 posted on 12/13/2005 6:56:20 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: tobyhill
Israel already has Air Craft Carriers, Warships and Submarines on deployment in the Arabian Sea with probably 10-20,000 troops along with probably thousands of missiles and artillery rounds ready for action.

Israel has aircraft carriers!

Somebody inform Jane's! Quick! Somebody call Drudge!

I never saw an F-15 or F-16 take off from a carrier before. Hey honey, grab the camera--we've gotta see this!

Thousands of missiles aboard "warships" in the Arabian Sea! You don't say. Dang!

Was it drugs, or was it genetically inherited?

58 posted on 12/13/2005 7:24:08 AM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: razorgirl

setting up iraq as a staging point for us/ israel troops to invade iran isn't a good enough reason to help set up a nation? wasting time in iraq so we already have people there that have wartime experience and are right next door isn't a good enough reason?


59 posted on 12/13/2005 7:35:37 AM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
You're right they don't have aircraft carriers but plenty of Armed Warships in the Arabian Sea. Your notion that Israel can't handle Iran and that because of the geographical location of Iran is impossible to get to is absurd. As for your implication that I'm on drugs or have a mental condition, go get a life POS!
60 posted on 12/13/2005 7:57:55 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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