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QUESTION: Do any of you have experience with RECRUITING Homeschoolers for the Military?
09 December 2005 | David Osborne

Posted on 12/09/2005 9:02:12 PM PST by davidosborne

It has recently been brought to my attention that there are MANY homeschooled kids that are having problems getting into the military. Aparently local recruiters are not being very helpful.

If anyone out there has some experience in this area please let me know.

This problem seems to be much bigger than just here in Tallahassee.

The recruiters are saying that the "SCHOOL" must issue some document before the ASVAB can be administered, and the schools have no idea what they are talking about.

As a U.S. Army Drill Sergeant I should know the solution to this problem, but since I don't I am looking to my fellow FReepers for input.

Thanks.


TOPICS: Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: enlist; ged; homeschool; homeschooledsoldier; homeschooling; military; recruit; recruiting
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To: davidosborne

Establishing transcripts is a fairly easy process. I help in doing that in my job as an area admin for a private school for homeschoolers. If you'd like detailed information, please feel free to freepmail me. :o)


61 posted on 12/10/2005 8:49:40 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: ark_girl
**Your parents enforce discipline, but it's not the same as having to respect and obey someone you don't really know because of their position.**

Many, if not most, homeschooled high schoolers take academic courses in a coop situation and are accountable to their instructor. This instructor is either a home educator with experience/expertise in the area of the course being taught...or a college level instructor *at* the local JC.

62 posted on 12/10/2005 8:52:18 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: Vineyard

Excellent post. You must be *very* proud. :o)


63 posted on 12/10/2005 8:54:19 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: kalee

Wonderful!


64 posted on 12/10/2005 8:54:42 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: aberaussie

Homeschooling does not equal staying home. (Unfortunately, for this road weary mom.) ;-)


I know what you mean. Somedays I was awfully glad to get to stay home. :)


65 posted on 12/10/2005 10:40:48 AM PST by kalee
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To: agrace; bboop; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; DaveLoneRanger; dawn53; ...

Home Educators Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.


66 posted on 12/10/2005 12:10:08 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: twstearman
Recruiters don't like homeschoolers, period. Not because they are smarter, but the amount of legwork required. Homeschoolers have much more to prove in terms of documentation than a regular, joe-blow who just graduated from the town high school

Then the Gummint is requiring more than the colleges.

My 17 year old son attended community college classes while in high school, and has enough credits for an AA. The university he's transfering to couldn't care less whether he has a diploma or not, they just want proof of the AA.

However, the community college needs proof of HS qualifications in order to award the AA. But the only proof they need is an affidavit from me (the homeschooling mom) saying he's completed high school work.

No transcript of HS work is needed.

Years ago, my nephew was homeschooled and did very well on the ASVAB. He had recruiters calling from every branch of the service. At that point in time (this was over 10 years ago) there must not have been a problem recruiting homeschoolers.

67 posted on 12/10/2005 12:38:39 PM PST by dawn53
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To: twstearman

very helpful.. thanks ill pass it on


68 posted on 12/10/2005 7:23:07 PM PST by davidosborne (JUST ME .....)
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To: Cindy

"Contact HSLDA.org and talk to them."



Good idea as I recall they've been fighting/dealing with this for some number of years.


69 posted on 12/10/2005 8:39:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: MJY1288

Don't they still have to take the ASVAB?


70 posted on 12/10/2005 8:42:19 PM PST by SALChamps03
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To: SALChamps03

I'm not sure


71 posted on 12/10/2005 8:45:47 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: org.whodat
The problem is that homeschool requirements change from state to state. Most state's require that the student take test's to prove they are being educated. the results of these test for what would be the senior year is what you are looking for. Same paper is required for a home schooler to go to college. You should talk to the local school board.

The only thing correct here is that requirements vary by state. Many states do not require tests. No such tests were required for my kids to go to college. And the local school board is the last place I would go with questions about homeschooling, as they are the least likely to be informed.

72 posted on 12/10/2005 9:55:58 PM PST by knuthom
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To: davidosborne

I heard that too, from my sis in Colorado. There was some stupid reason, like they hadn't taken gym classes or something. No data here, but you should check into it further. I believe it is across the board.


73 posted on 12/11/2005 7:54:51 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: davidosborne

It IS a problem. The universities are very much on board with homeschoolers and are now welcoming them. There is a huge spectrum of homeschoolers, as there is with kids who have attended school. But I personally believe the military will find gem-quality recruits among them, and should work HARD to correct the bureaucratic obstacles which now hinder hs'ers from enlisting.

What did I hear? That they have to enlist as 'dropouts' or something? It might be a problem at the local level, too. Recruiters don't always know what to do? It would probably take a sentence in the Recruiting Code to change it. No need for Federal laws.


74 posted on 12/11/2005 8:04:47 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: bnelson44

What does that say? "Must match courses/ credit hours that regulation high schools require?" (something like that?). That will not work for homeschoolers, ever, because homeschool is not set up to mimic public education.

If you want REALLY GOOD recruits, you should make it possible for applicants simply to take that test, count them as High School grads, and go for it. No need for the Senate and the House to get involved. Honestly!!!


75 posted on 12/11/2005 8:07:49 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: MJY1288

Most services don't accept GED anymore.


76 posted on 12/11/2005 8:11:23 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: davidosborne

No problem in NE Oklahoma, David. We are exceedingly proud to know several homeschooled young men who volunteered and are now serving. No worries here.


77 posted on 12/11/2005 8:15:03 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: knuthom
Your statements remind me of the time I was talking to a lady who had home schooled two kids. I said something about the "TVA" and she looks at me and said what's that?
78 posted on 12/11/2005 6:33:58 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
Are you implying that I am the ignorant one here? Your words:

Most state's require that the student take test's to prove they are being educated. the results of these test for what would be the senior year is what you are looking for. Same paper is required for a home schooler to go to college. You should talk to the local school board.

It is not true that most states require homeschoolers take tests. I can find only 11 states that require testing. More than half the states have no testing requirements. Others have the option of testing or some form of alternative evaluation. Some require no evaluations be provided to the state at all.

What colleges want is an SAT or ACT score. Those tests are not required by states to prove students are being educated. In fact, no student is required to take them unless they seek admission to a college that demands them.

And finally, schools boards are not likely to be well informed about homeschooling requirements because they don't have to be. In most places, school boards are not involved in homeschooling at all.

79 posted on 12/11/2005 8:39:04 PM PST by knuthom
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To: knuthom
What I'm saying lady is that I have never met a home educator, that wasn't a teacher, that was qualified to teach anything.And the big problem is that most of the younger teacher of today are in the same boat, and the choice of the word is of your choosing.
80 posted on 12/12/2005 6:23:31 PM PST by org.whodat
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