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[Tookie] Williams' fate now up to governor-State prepares for possible violence if execution occurs
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 12/9/5
| Mark Martin
Posted on 12/09/2005 7:30:04 AM PST by SmithL
Sacramento -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger spent more than an hour with lawyers for Stanley Tookie Williams and prosecutors pushing for his death sentence Thursday, hearing final arguments before he makes a decision on Williams' bid to avoid lethal injection.
Schwarzenegger now has fewer than four days to weigh Williams' past as a convicted four-time murderer and gang leader against his present work as an anti-gang crusader. Williams, who has written eight children's books from his Death Row cell, is pleading for clemency based on his value as "a unique voice'' against street violence, one of his attorneys said.
The hearing, in which both sides made their case to Schwarzenegger and four lawyers who work for the governor, took place in private. The governor was handed a letter from Williams during the meeting.
Schwarzenegger made no public appearances Thursday, and while attorneys held press conferences in front of more than 25 television cameras and dozens of reporters, no one would divulge details of the meeting held in the Ronald Reagan Cabinet Room inside the governor's suite of Capitol offices.
Williams' case has received worldwide attention and his notoriety and scheduled execution at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday has California prison officials preparing for potential violence inside facilities. Celebrities have been drawn to Williams' cause -- he met privately with rapper Snoop Dogg Wednesday and with actor Jamie Foxx Thursday at San Quentin State Prison.
In the Capitol, a deputy district attorney from Los Angeles made the case against clemency, declaring that Williams was guilty of "extremely brutal crimes against people who were defenseless.''
"Very simply, in our opinion, there are certain murders -- not every murder -- where an individual's conduct is just so abhorrent, where the crime is so brutal, it simply justifies the ultimate punishment,''
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: deathpenalty; frymumia; frytookie; stanleywilliams; tookie; tookiewilliams
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To: vimto
They will riot and all I want to see is what the beast from the west Maxine Waters's excuse this time is; will she side with victims majority of whom were black inner city youths or Tookie, my money is on TOOKIE. I want no tax dollars used to rebuild this time.
To: MAWG
It will be interesting to see what he has traded his soul for.
One more thought on trading with rats:
Here's the pattern, the way I see it:
- A Republican is presented with a clear moral choice, and his instinct is to decide in favor of the clearly more moral alternative.
- The Republican's advisors fear what they perceive to be the political consequences of making a clear moral choice.
- The rats offer up a deal: You give us A & B, and we'll give you C & D.
- Even though the deal, on its face, is unfair (A+B > C+D), the advisors to the Republican insist that "given the political realities, this is the best deal you can get".
- The Republican, against his better judgement, and against the base of his supporters, makes the deal, rotten as it is.
- As soon as the deal is cut, the rats refuse to give on point B (which they just promised), and a short time later refuse to give on point A.
- The rats get the whole enchilada: A+B+C+D.
- Apologists for the Republican still claim, "he made the best deal he could get".
- The rats move on to the next deal.
To: samtheman
I feel a Great Wavering coming on,...So do I. "Tookie" cheats death, Arnold commits political suicide. Arnold pleads Maria's influence.
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posted on
12/09/2005 9:57:51 AM PST
by
elbucko
To: Modok
"Is he dead yet?"He's only mostly dead...
64
posted on
12/09/2005 10:05:45 AM PST
by
Chinito
(6990th Security Group, RC-135/Combat Apple, SEA Class of '68)
To: HamiltonJay
Ain't that the truth!
This saintly man inspires violence? Why how can that be?
65
posted on
12/09/2005 10:07:25 AM PST
by
Let's Roll
( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
To: samtheman
You dont think Arnold is a Republican do you? In my opinion, he is a RINO at best. I also think that he has been completely overwhelmed by the job. Now, having said all this, he is 100 times better than that whore, Grey Davis.
66
posted on
12/09/2005 10:08:59 AM PST
by
MAWG
(In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
To: joebuck
It would only alienate the people who fought hardest for him in the last election.Some say that Arnie's base didn't turn out for him on the initiatives, so he iss saying de hell wit zah baze.
67
posted on
12/09/2005 10:12:05 AM PST
by
Great Caesars Ghost
(History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
To: Bernard Marx
I think LA has been ready to burn all summer. I expected it to go, not NO, but this may be the time.
68
posted on
12/09/2005 10:15:09 AM PST
by
Great Caesars Ghost
(History says our political structure and weak stomach will cause us to lose this war.)
To: Bernard Marx
I expect the vicious SOB actually to get the Nobel Prize if he's executed.
I'm serious. That's how far gone the world is.
Anything to thumb Uncle Sam in the eye.
To: SmithL
I hope it's lights out for Tookie.
70
posted on
12/09/2005 10:32:51 AM PST
by
rockthecasbah
(4th & 9. 1:32 left in the 4th quarter. Down by 3 at Notre Dame. No problem. Fight on!)
To: SmithL
Arnold can (and hopefully will) take refuge in the fact that apparently, unlike all the last minute court stays of execution, clemency from a governor is a comparatively rare event. So by not taking action (and frying the tookster) he is apparently taking the road more travelled. I think if I were Arnold I'd issue a pro forma statement saying, "I looked at the case and there was no reason to do anything different" and then go on to other matters. I.E. just let the system run it's course and not make a big deal out of it. I hope this is what happens.
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posted on
12/09/2005 10:36:36 AM PST
by
2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
(Is your problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
To: SmithL
If Arnold thinks clemency for Tookie would help him politically he is dead wrong. The people that are for saving this scum bang would never vote for a Republican not even Arnold. Fry Tookie, Fry.
To: SmithL; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; Amerigomag; FOG724; calcowgirl; tubebender; ...
I haven't read the thread yet and I don't think the leftist's MSM would be putting out the subliminal threat of riotus violence if Arnold Schwartzenegger hadn't raised the hopefully false hope of clemency with his bogus secret hearing!!!
Therefore, if there really are riots and mayhem, the blame for it lies at the feet of the celebrity politician who opted for self-agrandisement with his bogus enhancement of playing god with the power of life and death held in his abeyance!!! It's SHAMEFUL!!!
73
posted on
12/09/2005 10:59:17 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
To: SierraWasp
Therefore, if there really are riots and mayhem, the blame for it lies at the feet of the celebrity politician who opted for self-agrandisement with his bogus enhancement of playing god with the power of life and death held in his abeyance!!! It's SHAMEFUL!!!It's all the fault of those evil convservatives who wouldn't vote for his propositions. You are not drinking enough Kool-Aide.
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:02:09 AM PST
by
FOG724
(http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
To: SierraWasp
Peaceful demonstrations are fine. But if the usual suspects foment a riot, it should be put down with rapid and maximum use of force. Make it a nice lesson for the future. It's really all they understand.
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:05:04 AM PST
by
Czar
(StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
To: MAWG
"Now, having said all this, he is 100 times better than that whore, Grey Davis."In what ways? (name at least 100 please)
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:07:26 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
To: SierraWasp; SmithL; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; Amerigomag; FOG724; calcowgirl; ...
You can "bet your sweet bippie" that 'spontaneous' riots are at this moment being planned in the bowels of our universities, and liberal 'churches.'
77
posted on
12/09/2005 11:09:35 AM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
To: editor-surveyor
Complete with preprinted signs and busses to transport protesters.
78
posted on
12/09/2005 11:12:08 AM PST
by
FOG724
(http://gravenimagemusic.com/)
To: Czar
My point is... If there's ANY rioting... Schwartzenegger with his vanity has spawned it by not rejecting any clemency way back before he held the phony secret hearing this week. That has simply spawned enough unnecessary false hope to trigger said rioting if it occurs!!!
This give way more supposed justification to "the usual suspects" as you call them!!!
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posted on
12/09/2005 11:13:01 AM PST
by
SierraWasp
(The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
To: samtheman
I feel a Great Wavering coming on, issuing forth from Arnold, shaking the ground beneath our feet. He knows his career as governator is finished, so he'll pardon this murderer to please his leftie friends in Hollywood, who will reward him with another trio of movies at $20 million each for Arnold.
Happily Ever After for another Republican who screws conservatives. Same ol', same ol'.
80
posted on
12/09/2005 11:14:51 AM PST
by
Hank Rearden
(Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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