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Those darn Asians and Islamics are buying all the gold! It's been as high as 525 today and New York not even open yet. Thank goodness when they do open there the price will drop as the West continues to sell into the eastern buying spree.

One might think there was a big war or major crash coming. Oh well, wars and crashes happen all the time. And gold just keeps sitting there. It might not gain any interest or have fancy paper appreciation but it sure does store wealth in hard times.

Of course the smart money says, "it's different this time." Those are the four most dangerous words in the English language -- it's different this time. Gramps used to hear it all the time in the 20's.

Those darn Asians and Islamics. What are they trying to do -- ruin us all?

HG

1 posted on 12/09/2005 6:01:52 AM PST by DebtAndDelusion
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Precious metals have been given a boost as investors look to protect themselves against higher inflation and weakening currencies such as the Japanese yen.

But inflation is still low, and the depreciation of the yen should not impact the value of gold, as denominated in dollars. Personally, I think it's more the case of investors not being satisfied with the meager gains on the stock market, and being afraid to put more money into real estate. Gold is the only thing left, but I predict that gold will ultimately demonstrate that it's not a safe haven either.

2 posted on 12/09/2005 6:06:43 AM PST by Brilliant
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Ping.
3 posted on 12/09/2005 6:13:38 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: DebtAndDelusion

Do you know the North Koreans were printing US currency?


5 posted on 12/09/2005 6:21:25 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom-What fools they are who doubt the ability of liberty to triumph over despotism)
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I believe the FED has decided to stop releasing money supply figures which are presumed to be way over the top. Inflation is a direct result of to many dollars in the economy. Gold is a hedge against printing money (inflation) and I belive this is the cause for the run-up.


6 posted on 12/09/2005 6:33:55 AM PST by eyedigress
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My father had a friend who put all his money into gold in the late 1970s. I think it cost him something like $800 per ounce.

Great store of value.


7 posted on 12/09/2005 6:42:12 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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'Those darn Asians and Islamics. What are they trying to do -- ruin us all?'

Probably. The islamics esp would like nothing more than to ruin the U.S.


8 posted on 12/09/2005 6:45:09 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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Gold is a GREAT investment. If I had invested all my money in Gold when I first graduated from High School over 25 years ago, by now I would have ----

Less money than I had when I graduated High School.

(Gold was over $800 an ounce back then).

BTW, My HOUSE has appreciated in value MORE than gold in the last 5 years. So I guess you could have bought gold, but you would have been better buying your neighbor's house.


9 posted on 12/09/2005 6:45:11 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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"There's some profit-taking now..."

How could this possibly be?...everybody knows that lots of people lost money om gold during the 80's. /s/
15 posted on 12/09/2005 6:53:13 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Give my blankets to my buddies and the fleas to Diamond Joe.)
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"I don't think this boom will subside in the near term."

Look for the "smart guys" to get out shortly leaving the novices, who actually believe this or any other market only goes up, holding the bag. The huge spike up in the past several weeks is imo, the last surge before the bottom falls out.

21 posted on 12/09/2005 7:09:30 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV
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Buying and selling precious metals, like sex, is all about timing.

Back in the '70s I read a great book by Harry Browne with the numbing title "How you can profit from the coming devaluation". I was on vacation and stayed up until 3 a.m. reading it. The guy was spot on. Before I got back from vacation, there was a devaluation. (Devaluation is the government euphenism for bankrupcy - as in a 50% devaluation in effect says the country is bankrupt and will pay off debtors at the rate of half what is owed them.)

Remember the "dual rate" of LBJ? The govt said gold was worth $44 an ounce, but wouldn't redeem any dollars in that (foreign govts could still demand conversion - LBJ talked them into taking silver instead at 95c an ounce, all the while exhorting people not to hoard silver - Gresham's Law* proved once again.). The free market immediately went to $48, when I bought in.

I bailed at $105 an ounce, kissing my hands at what a smart speculator I was - it CAN'T POSSIBLY go any higher. Got back in at $125 and stayed until $525 when I figured that was absolutely the tops. Jesu, what a ride!

Out of all that, what sticks in my mind was walking into a coin shop with $52 face value silver coins and walking out with $1004. Talk about being stunned!

A long time ago, a wise man said that gold was the thermometer of the world's condition, so maybe these Asians know something we don't.

*Bad money drives out the good. If you have two coins, one intrinsically worth more than the other but of equal buying power, which would you keep?


38 posted on 12/09/2005 8:23:04 AM PST by Oatka (Hyphenated-Americans have hyphenated-loyalties -- Victor Davis Hanson)
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Gold is rebounding from a long period of being in the dumps. Gold should be at $750 or so. Doesn't mean there will be major crashes in the economy.


44 posted on 12/09/2005 9:14:00 AM PST by Always Right
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54 posted on 12/09/2005 10:31:45 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (The 2005 Chicago White Sox---World Series Champs---WOO! HOO!)
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wars and crashes happen all the time.

It's not so much when they happen, but where they happen. The threatened immolation of Israel might be a little closer to home than an instability in Sudan.

56 posted on 12/09/2005 10:34:38 AM PST by RightWhale (Not transferable -- Good only for this trip)
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Sure, let's go back to a gold base stock market as well, then we can replicate the stock market crash.


57 posted on 12/09/2005 10:34:40 AM PST by Darksheare (Bonafide Henchman.)
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for the record, by 10:00 est the price exceede 530 on the NY market


64 posted on 12/09/2005 11:12:44 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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Jeeesh! Then what's the solution? Go out and purchase some gold at $522 per? Gold is Gold is Gold and will only be worth something when it all falls apart. Only, in order to keep that gold (if you bought some) would have to be with gunsteel and some lead.....


78 posted on 12/09/2005 1:40:54 PM PST by Gaffer
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Better hurry up and buy, people! You'll have time to sell when it goes back down to $300!


88 posted on 12/09/2005 2:24:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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I'm not an economist, nor do I play one on TV, I'm an investor and an MD. All I hear is from golf and fishing friends that are brokers or investors. I've heard them say that as the price of gold goes up it is an indication of inflation to come. I can understand that, but (before I make a fool of myself by asking them) is it possible that this may not be the case due to the additional volume of investment in the global market. Example: there are more investor getting into all markets because of India and China increasing their economic strength. My question is this: is the sheer volume of new investment, due to the afore mentioned, raising the price of gold?
92 posted on 12/09/2005 3:37:27 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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It's been as high as 525 today and New York not even open yet. Thank goodness when they do open there the price will drop as the West continues to sell into the eastern buying spree.

I don't know what gold opened at but it closed at 527.00. So much for selling into the east.

103 posted on 12/09/2005 7:16:17 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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almost had a heart attack when I misread the title as "oil surge past $522 level"


104 posted on 12/09/2005 7:16:46 PM PST by bobdsmith
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