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Judge dismisses lawsuit involving courtroom oaths (Buh-bye, Quran)
N&R ^ | 12/8/05 | Eric Collins (He's a twit, BTW)

Posted on 12/08/2005 12:17:22 PM PST by Rebelbase

A judge today dismissed a lawsuit prompted by outcry over the inability of Muslims to be sworn in Guilford County courts using the Quran, a lawyer in the case said.

In throwing out the case, Superior Court Judge Donald L. Smith decided that no controversy existed because the plaintiff was still able to affirm she could truthfully testify despite not being allowed to swear on the Quran, attorney Seth Cohen said.

The plaintiffs in the case were the American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina and Greensboro Muslim Syidah Mateen. The defendant was the state of North Carolina because the plaintiffs were asking to clarify a state law referring to someone laying his hands on the “Holy Scriptures."

Guilford Senior Resident Superior Court Judge W. Douglas Albright and Guilford Chief District Court Judge Joseph E. Turner believed an oath on the Quran is not a legal oath based on their interpretation of that law.

In the suit, Mateen alleged she had appeared as a witness in a 2003 court hearing but was not allowed to take an oath on the Quran as she preferred.

Cohen, the ACLU's attorney, said the group would discuss whether to appeal Smith's ruling.

Smith has not yet made the ruling final by signing an order as of Thursday afternoon.

Grady Balentine, a lawyer with the N.C. Attorney General's office, said he wouldn't comment because the order had not been signed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: aclu; courtoath; coutroom; koran; koransaysok2lie; ncjudiciary; ncpolitics
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Nothing finer than an ACLU smackdown in Carolina.
1 posted on 12/08/2005 12:17:23 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase
The plaintiffs in the case were the American Civil Liberties Union...
That's all the judge needed to know right there.
2 posted on 12/08/2005 12:18:39 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Rebelbase

I love to see the ACLU lose for a change!


3 posted on 12/08/2005 12:19:30 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: Rebelbase

about freakin time someone stood up to them..


4 posted on 12/08/2005 12:19:43 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: samtheman

what's wrong with you Americans? Why don't you cave into the Muslim demands like us wise old Europeans do?


5 posted on 12/08/2005 12:20:58 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: Rebelbase; Constitution Day

Great work, Guilford County!


6 posted on 12/08/2005 12:21:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Rebelbase; TaxRelief; Alia; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day, TaxRelief OR Alia if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
8 posted on 12/08/2005 12:25:18 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: vimto
Why don't you cave into the Muslim demands like us wise old Europeans do?
Give us time. We'll be caving soon enough.
9 posted on 12/08/2005 12:25:48 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Rebelbase

Under the principle of Taqiya (takeyya), muslims are permitted to utter false oaths. So, there's little point in having them swear on the koran, anyway.


10 posted on 12/08/2005 12:25:59 PM PST by Salvey (ancest)
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To: Rebelbase
ACLU fights for to get Koran in the courtroom but fights to keep Christianity out of the courtroom. Hmm...Anyone still wonder what the true agenda of the ACLU is?
11 posted on 12/08/2005 12:26:55 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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To: Rebelbase

In a similar vein, whatever happened to the case involving that Muslim woman in Florida who refused to remove her scarf for a driver's license? Did she win that one?


12 posted on 12/08/2005 12:26:56 PM PST by COBOL2Java (The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
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To: Howlin

"Great work, Guilford County!"

I'm sure it's just a fluke!


13 posted on 12/08/2005 12:28:12 PM PST by Rebelbase (Food stamps, section-8, State paid Child support, etc. pay more than the min. wage.)
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To: samtheman

Please don't or we are all sunk.


14 posted on 12/08/2005 12:30:52 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: COBOL2Java
I seem to remember we had a woman in the UK who said it was against her human rights to remove her Burka for a passport! (thankfully nor upheld).
15 posted on 12/08/2005 12:32:55 PM PST by vimto (Life isn't a dry run)
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To: Rebelbase

Not to worry. This will reach a judge who will overturn this ruling.


16 posted on 12/08/2005 12:35:00 PM PST by caisson71
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To: samtheman

Like hell we will!


17 posted on 12/08/2005 12:35:11 PM PST by 95 Bravo ("Freedom is not free.")
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To: Rebelbase

Awwww, shucks. And here we were gonna buy them a nice pigskin bound Koran to swear upon before taking the stand.


19 posted on 12/08/2005 12:41:12 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: COBOL2Java

She lost.


20 posted on 12/08/2005 12:41:58 PM PST by Mulch (tm)
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