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Report: Don't kid yourself - toxins persist in the Great Lakes (DDT and PCBs)
M Live.com ^ | December 7, 2005 | Sarah Kellogg

Posted on 12/08/2005 8:51:44 AM PST by GreenFreeper

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1 posted on 12/08/2005 8:51:45 AM PST by GreenFreeper
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To: GreenFreeper

Then why do we have so many damn mosquitos?


2 posted on 12/08/2005 8:53:11 AM PST by b4its2late (More Republicans in Congress need to grow a pair.)
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To: blam; Carry_Okie; Chanticleer; ClearCase_guy; cogitator; CollegeRepublican; ...
ECO-PING

FReepmail me to be added or removed to the ECO-PING list!

Lots of conjecture and slight on the facts but its an interesting look at the way the message is protrayed.

3 posted on 12/08/2005 8:53:57 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: GreenFreeper
"Women and minorities, two groups advisories were designed to protect, don't appear to know about the dangers of contaminated fish," the report says.

As usual, these two groups were hit hardest.

4 posted on 12/08/2005 8:54:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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As usual, these two groups were hit hardest

Damn those white males who intentially poison the weak and ignorant.

5 posted on 12/08/2005 8:55:51 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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"The concentration of PCBs and total DDT and its metabolites in fish and wildlife tissues showed almost no decline between 1990 and 2000," the report states.

Yet they neatly tie the problem to the "Bush Administration strategy" to clean it up. . .

6 posted on 12/08/2005 9:00:20 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: GreenFreeper

Show me the data (and show me the measurement system analysis).


7 posted on 12/08/2005 9:05:50 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: GreenFreeper

Did someone turn over a rock?


8 posted on 12/08/2005 9:12:24 AM PST by hgro (A)
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To: GreenFreeper

I have lived on the Great Lakes system all my life:

I have lived on the Detroit River, Lake Superior, and now on the shores of Lake Erie.

When I was a kid the smell of dead fish in the Detroit River was so bad that people who came there to fish for the first time would vomit.

It is MUCH, MUCH BETTER NOW!

In Lake St Clair you can actually SEE the bottom since the Zebra Mussels arrived.

Trust Mikey on this one.


9 posted on 12/08/2005 9:21:08 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (I grew up in a slum, when I got to college it had become a "ghetto".)
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To: GreenFreeper
I'll repeat this post on any DDT thread you post without a link to JunkScience.com.

Dr. J. Gordon Edwards, featured in Esquire magazine, September 1971, eating a tablespoon of DDT, a feat he repeated publicly almost every week in his public campaign to show the safety of DDT.

J. Gordon Edwards died last year hiking in the Glacier National Park Wilderness at the age of 85. Dr. Edwards was a great man: a nature lover, a patriot, and a scientist.

10 posted on 12/08/2005 9:21:47 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: GreenFreeper

This is more bs.


11 posted on 12/08/2005 9:26:20 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Mikey_1962

Nothing better than a Lake Superior trout from the Brule, fresh caught, gutted and gilled, on the charcoal grill. Gimme a Leiney's.


12 posted on 12/08/2005 9:27:36 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: operation clinton cleanup; Lakeshark

ping

Great Lakes pollution.


13 posted on 12/08/2005 9:31:52 AM PST by phantomworker (We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are.<==> Perception is everything.)
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To: Mikey_1962
It is MUCH, MUCH BETTER NOW!

And then some. I remember dodging dead fish and globs of goo while swimming in Lake Michigan when I was a kid. My parents swam in it all their lives and are still going strong.

14 posted on 12/08/2005 9:55:20 AM PST by lizma
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I'm gona run right out and dump some more toxins in the lake just to damage these two groups. Hopefully the idiot that wrote the report will fall under one or more of the catagories.


15 posted on 12/08/2005 9:56:09 AM PST by newcthem (Madison: Twenty square miles surrounded on all sides by reality)
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To: phantomworker
Mean. You are mean.

:-)

16 posted on 12/08/2005 10:00:47 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Carry_Okie
I'll repeat this post on any DDT thread you post without a link to JunkScience.com.

Go ahead... I'm not going to link to junk science because that's what that site is, junk. They conviently leave out useful research to carryout their own agenda. I know your like digging into any research that you don't agree with, why don't you have a look at some of the studies that Junkscience cites? Are you willing to defend them?

17 posted on 12/08/2005 10:15:37 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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Encouraging both countries to spend more money to clean up contaminated sediments in the lakes;

From your article....you think this might have something to do with this report? Funding? I am shocked.

*Gasp*

18 posted on 12/08/2005 10:20:39 AM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Funding? I am shocked.

Like I said, the article is garbage but I thought it was an interesting (don't agree) take on the social dynamic of environmental issues.

19 posted on 12/08/2005 10:24:37 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: lizma
I remember dodging dead fish and globs of goo while swimming in Lake Michigan when I was a kid.

I tell that story all the time, too. Isn't that funny!! Trying to change the Lake's ecosystem. Did they introduce the lamprey eel to control the alewives?

How foolish they were to try to fool Mother Nature!

20 posted on 12/08/2005 10:27:41 AM PST by phantomworker (We don't see things as they are, we see things as WE are.<==> Perception is everything.)
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