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Fox News: Shots fired on American Airlines flight out of Miami
Dec. 7 2005 | Fox

Posted on 12/07/2005 11:28:34 AM PST by YoshiBear

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To: Hank Rearden

OK, now having said that, it was sensible the first time. Now it's getting old.


981 posted on 12/07/2005 2:20:32 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Dichroic

Thanks. Don't know if the 28-yo is their son, then. They would be pretty young if 44 and 43.


982 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:02 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Look, I wouldn't expect a government-uber-alles guy like you to appreciate opinions opposing overwhelming statist growth and overkill. Militarization of all aspects of law enforcement doesn't seem to concern folks like you.

Where were all these people on the tarmac four hours ago? Stored in a warehouse eating donuts or out patrolling the streets? If the latter, shouldn't they get back to doing that instead of standing around?

But you appear to be insufficiently celebrating my diversity with your comments such as "Shutup with your trashing of law enforcement." That's not what I was doing (I was, however, highlighting militaristic bureaucracy), but your comment is an example of overkill right there.

983 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:03 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: All

Briefing coming up from Miami


984 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:16 PM PST by Dichroic
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To: Lizarde

Chris Matthews: Could air marshall have stopped the guys on 9-11?

Analyst: Of course they could.

[That sort of shut Matthews down.]


985 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:16 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: immigration lady

One article says they told him to hit the deck and he did. Then he reached for his bag. Kaboomboomboomboomboom!


986 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:18 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Hank Rearden
I'm capable of multitasking.

We had no idea....
987 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:35 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: Dichroic

Marijuana use is a known trigger. I wonder if painkilling meds your friend was given after the injury could have been a trigger. There's definitely a genetic component, but definitely environmental components too.


988 posted on 12/07/2005 2:21:47 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: immigration lady

They would be mistaken for the deranged madmen.


989 posted on 12/07/2005 2:22:00 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Dichroic

Their "awards" shows are like a "SYBIL" convention!


990 posted on 12/07/2005 2:22:17 PM PST by RasterMaster ("Bin Laden shows others the road to Paradise, but never offers to go along for the ride." GWB)
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To: Lizarde
News conference schedule for 5:30 EDT



991 posted on 12/07/2005 2:23:19 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: wyattearp

I'm just surprised it would be. Even the number of air marshals is classified, so I would have thought that details of what they're armed with would be too, since it would help terrorists prepare to protect themselves against the marshals.


992 posted on 12/07/2005 2:23:37 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: jdm
"I am f*** sick of this. I hate our government. I HATE WHAT AMERIKA HAS BECOME. I miss the old USA, where people have rights of life...."

If this DUmmie believed in right of life, he wouldn't be a pro-choice liberal commie.

Good point. Those idiots don't realize how stupid they sound sometimes.

I feel sorry for this woman and what she has gone through today. However, if it had become known later that there were Air Marshals on board this flight and THEY HADN'T DONE ANYTHING about a guy screaming down the aisle and into the concourse that he had a bomb, the press would be all over it.

At least now the Islamofascists see that we're serious.

993 posted on 12/07/2005 2:24:01 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Well regardless now it is public.


994 posted on 12/07/2005 2:24:14 PM PST by silentknight
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To: silentknight
I love it when people talk about things nobody should know :)

Why shouldn't anybody know it? Do an FOIA and see what kind of ammo they buy. No big deal. The first time that I saw the idea of them using prefragmented rounds (like magsafe) was on the TV show "Crossing Jordan". Pretty silly, really, but they were trying to maintain the "explosive decompression" myth that hollywood has been exploiting for years.

The thing is that if you were to remove an entire window from the airplane at 30,000 feet, the air system of the aircraft would still be able to keep up with pressure loss. It's not that big of a deal. There is no reason to carry special ammunition for use on an airplane.

Some police departments carry silvertips. Some carry hydrashocks. Some carry golden sabers. Some carry semi-wadcutters. It's not that big of a deal.

995 posted on 12/07/2005 2:24:41 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Lizarde

I was suddenly reminded of an incident not long after 9-11 where a passenger went nutso on a flight inbound to O'Hare. He started claming the plane was going to fly into the Sears Tower.

They scrambled the fighter planes and escorted the flight in, but I'll bet were prepared to take the plane down if need be. I heard the sonic booms, lived in the area at that time.

I recall there was a nurse on board who medicated the perp with valium and benedryl after he was subdued by other passengers/crew. The valium etc. were stocked on the plane.

Mayor Richie Daley was infuriated that the father who was flying with the perp knew he was nutso and off his meds and allowed him to get on the plane.

It'd be interesteing to see if Mayor Richie would comment along those same lines regarding today's episode.


996 posted on 12/07/2005 2:24:47 PM PST by prairiebreeze (I am unapologetically and enthusiastically celebrating CHRISTMAS!!)
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To: areafiftyone

WEBSITE MAN is Dead? Oh No!

(sorry, couldn't resist)


997 posted on 12/07/2005 2:25:22 PM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Jrabbit

That's always a possibility, and it wouldn't be a good idea to put on a demonstration for real terrorists, showing that a diversion like this would work, and would throw authorities off the scent of a real terrorist act in progress.


998 posted on 12/07/2005 2:25:38 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Lizarde

I just hope the feds don't go overboard and require everyone to take a 20 page psychological test before getting on a plane. The system worked just fine this time.


999 posted on 12/07/2005 2:25:55 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Marijuana use is a known trigger. I wonder if painkilling meds your friend was given after the injury could have been a trigger. There's definitely a genetic component, but definitely environmental components too.>>>>>

They were diagnosed way back in the early 70s.

Theyve actually gotten better the last few years since turning 60.

Mellowing a bit.

Im sorry about your sister btw. If she could be considered a danger to herself or others I would think you could get her inpatient treatment.

1,000 posted on 12/07/2005 2:26:01 PM PST by Dichroic
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