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NIGERGATE: The FBI re-opens the case, joint investigation with SISMI
IL GIORNALE ^ | December 4, 2005 | By Gian Marco Chiocci and Mario Sechi

Posted on 12/04/2005 12:00:26 PM PST by parnasokan

NIGERGATE: The FBI re-opens the case, joint investigation with SISMI, the role of the French 007’s to be examined

Chiocci and Sechi strike again. The following appeared in the Sunday edition of Il Giornale, interesting reading indeed. Of particular interest is the French slant, interesting because it needs to be investigated, interesting also because the first to point it out were the people her at FR. This new joint FBI-SISMI investigation has to be followed closely because it’s going to turn up some startling little gems, a lot of people are going to get very upset. Lets watch it happen……….

-----ARTICLE BEGINS----- The investigation will use the evidence gathered by the Italian services, evidence that leaves little doubt over the role of the French 007’s

By Gian Marco Chiocci and Mario Sechi

Rome, December 4, 2005

Joint investigations into the Nigergate affair are in course, the Federal Bureau of Investigation will work hand in hand with SISMI. Confirming recent press reports the Italian Intelligence Services have let it be known that «the activities are relative to a line proposed by SISMI that the FBI asked to share and jointly develop».

Implicitly the reference is to the French connection, or more precisely to the results obtained by SISMI during the counterespionage activities that saw Rocco Martino in the staring role. The «postman» of the false dossier regarding the sale of uranium to Iraq by Niger was paid by the 007’s from the Dgse in Paris. «The stance of the Fbi – observed an Italian official – represents another significant example of how much our work is appreciated», work for which we have «a lot of optimism in regards to the possibility of identifying as soon as possible those responsible, the investigation is also aimed at ascertaining who, and for what motives, tried in vain to place the blame for the affair on the Italian authorities».

The objective of the FBI might have radically changed following the investigation carried out by SISMI and the recent declarations made by the ex number two of the French intelligence, Alain Chouet. In recent declarations Chouet denied a direct relationship between the DGSE and Rocco Martino thus inferring that the American authorities lied in regards to the Niger letters.

On July 20 the Director of the FBI, Robert S.Mueller III, wrote a letter to General Pollari in which he expressed the will for long term collaboration and in which he excluded Rome’s secret services and government from any role in the Nigergate affair.

Mueller expressed his «highest appreciation» for having been able to consult all of SISMI’s reports and paperwork and for having been able to talk to Italian officials. «This helped the Fbi to reach - wrote Muller – the proof that our theory was correct and that the affair was based upon personal profit excluding the theory of a disinformation campaign against the government of the United States». So no Italian conspiracy. So if Rome has nothing to do with it where are the FBI going with the new investigations? Given that the FBI and SISMI will be working together the work already done by SISMI will be of enormous support, in particular that regarding the results of the counterespionage against Rocco Martino and the Dgse.

The real problem will be in France, will the French open their archives to the Fbi? After the work done by the usual Blogs (Talkingpointsmemo, Rawstory, war&piece), the obsessively anti-Bush liberal newspapers (like the Los Angeles Times who yesterday tried the Italian angle once again) and a group of Democrat politicians at last in the United States questions are being asked about France’s double role. A France that lies over Martino and who – as has been demonstrated – knew about the false dossier before anyone else and remained silent about it until the IAEA declared it to be false.

Things are never clear in the Nigergate affair and confusion is the order of the day thus the second Fbi investigation in the Nigergate could be interpreted by the anti-3B (Bush, Blair, Berlusconi) politicians and media as a rethink or a U-turn.

According to the Los Angeles Times – who refer to an interview that Martino gave to Il Giornale forgetting, however, to include a crucial passage («I don’t want to be interrogated by anyone else»), the new investigation is due to pressure from a number of democrat senators who remain perplexed by the fact that Martino was never interrogated in the USA. Amongst those with doubts is Jay Rockefeller: «it’s a high level theme and it’s important that no doubts are left open. Sometimes it’s enough to do a little more investigative work and you discover things never seen or understood before».

How very true. Strange though how neither he nor his attentive democratic colleagues have never asked to lift the lid form the French cooking pot. So just like the American blogs who, ignoring the embarrassing interview between La Repubblica and the ex number two at the Dgse, in the last few hours have been celebrating the reopening of the case.

All this joy could result badly placed if it’ true that the FBI are finally looking towards Paris. Who knows what they’re thinking.

-----ARTICLE ENDS-----


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aids; alainchouet; bongo; chouet; cialeak; dgse; fbi; france; gabon; generalpollari; italy; jacqueline; jacquelinewilson; jayrockefeller; joewilson; latimes; martino; mueller; niger; nigerflap; nigergate; omarbongo; plamegate; pollari; robertmueller; roccomartino; rockefeller; sismi; usa; valerieplame
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1 posted on 12/04/2005 12:00:27 PM PST by parnasokan
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To: parnasokan
Let's have an educated guess, shall we?

The French were behind it with the help of the wonderful Italians.

What do you want to bet Ms. Plame had something to do with it? How about dear Mr. Wilson? After all, there are quite a few (ahem) French connections there.

2 posted on 12/04/2005 12:17:23 PM PST by Reactionary (Liberals are the Lunatic Fringe of the Lunatic Fringe)
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"In investigating the background of former US Ambassador, Joseph Wilson IV and the outing of his third wife Valerie Plame, I did what everyone did and used public information and his own words to look into his life. This is the very thing that led to the eventual outing of Valerie in the first place. Be that as it may, it seems that his second wife Jacqueline is quite a woman of mystery. Very little is known of her and it seems to all who look into her life that she shares one at least as intriguing as Valerie, at least that was before Valerie was outed as an agent in the employ of the CIA.





As a former French Diplomat, the last known location of his second wife Jacqueline was in Gabon under the employ of the President Omar Bongo's daughter, Pascaline Mferri Bongo. Between August and November 2000, she was paid $60,000 to write letters to the office of National AIDS policy at the White House. That’s quite a lot of money for simply writing a few letters. She’s reported to have worked for them at least through November of 2000 and is currently whereabouts unknown. I want to take this opportunity to remind everyone that Joseph Wilson IV was the US Ambassador to Gabon from 1992 to 1995...........



Completing the French Connection(The reasoning behind the forged Niger Documents)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1526045/posts#comment?q=1


3 posted on 12/04/2005 12:25:27 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: parnasokan
Background info on the French DGSE and its previous #2 boss. Alain Chouet:

France's DGSE in Full Disarray

Note that this happened in 2001 - 2002. There was a large civil war inside the French intelligence agencies, for and against the sitting president. Lots of things could have been going on without the political masters knowing anything. (Good possibility for Chirac to claim deniability.)

Maybe the CIA caught the French disease.

;)

4 posted on 12/04/2005 1:09:26 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Candor7
In investigating Plamegate....I looked behind Door No. 1 and found out that Matt Cooper is married to Mandy Grunwald, Hillary's best friend, media manager and Bubba's last campaign manager.

That's all I needed as a good basis for "Who the hell started this attack on Rove and why?" Then Bubba's little quip about Rove came out: (In my own words) If we could get rid of Rove, we could win back the White House!!

5 posted on 12/04/2005 1:16:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes, Miss Hitlery's fingerprints are all over this mess. Anyone know a site for a bio on Mandy Grunwald?


6 posted on 12/04/2005 3:20:29 PM PST by abclily
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To: abclily
Mandy's father was Henry Grunwald...Chief OpEd for Time, Inc. Henry was the first to suggest that Nixon resign. Don't forget that Hillary was involved in Watergate. He died Feb 26 2005. About three months later, Deepthroat was revealed in Vanity Fair!!

I had to find everything on her piecemeal.

Hillary gave Mandy a baby shower at the Whitehouse!

Sutherland (Commander in Chief) was involed in a project with Peter Grunwald.....Mandy's brother.

7 posted on 12/04/2005 4:20:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: parnasokan

bump


8 posted on 12/04/2005 6:56:18 PM PST by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: Candor7
Wilson's ex-wife is still an advisor to Bongo, her picture from a 2005 conference can be found here
9 posted on 12/05/2005 6:01:07 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: parnasokan; Fedora
the new investigation is due to pressure from a number of democrat senators

True?

10 posted on 12/05/2005 7:31:13 AM PST by mosquitobite (As the Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.)
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To: mosquitobite
'the new investigation is due to pressure from a number of democrat senators .  True?'

Pretty much true - here's some background--

Jay Rockefeller- Press release on July 11, 2003: "how did it happen that our President was allowed to mislead the American people and the world about Iraq’s nuclear program?... The Senate Intelligence Committee has been working to get to the bottom of the Niger documents since mid-March, and our larger inquiry into pre-war intelligence on Iraqi WMD will determine whether this was an isolated incident or part of a pattern of intelligence errors and distortions."

William Safire's "flock of pouting spooks at Langley" joined Rockefeller and other Dem. senators to try to pin the Niger forgery on Bush & Co. So On March 14th, (2003) Senator Jay Rockefeller, of West Virginia, the senior Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, formally asked Robert Mueller, the F.B.I. director, to investigate the forged documents. The FBI announced last month that it had finished a two-year inquiry and concluded that the forgeries were part of a moneymaking scheme — and not an effort to manipulate U.S. foreign policy.

Reported by MSNBC-- covering the Nov. 14, 2005 Newsweek issue - "The FBI ended a two-and-a-half-year probe into the Niger uranium documents without resolving a key mystery: who forged papers used to bolster President Bush's case for war in Iraq? The bureau announced that the documents, purportedly showing attempts by Saddam Hussein's government to purchase yellowcake uranium, were concocted for financial gain rather than to influence U.S. foreign policy. But Sen. Jay Rockefeller, vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee, had questions. Without more info about the "thoroughness" of the bureau's efforts, he said, "I cannot make a judgment on the accuracy of the conclusions."  http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9938998/site/newsweek/

The Newsweek-MSNBC analysis yields more grandstanding and prophecy:
"This is such a high-profile issue for a lot of reasons, and we think it's important to make sure there aren't lingering questions," said an aide to Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee. "There's always a chance that you do a little more investigating and you uncover something you hadn't seen before or you hadn't realized." A senior federal law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation, confirmed late Friday that the bureau (FBI) had reopened the inquiry. (L.A. Times last saturday)

Federal officials familiar with the case say investigators might examine whether the forgeries were instigated by U.S. citizens who advocated an invasion of Iraq or by members of the Iraqi National Congress — the group led by Ahmad Chalabi that worked closely with Bush administration officials in the buildup to the war. But the senior federal official said, "I don't expect the results to be any different. I think the answer is going to be that [Martino] wasn't acting in behalf of any government or intelligence agency. This guy was trying to peddle this to whoever he could."

So it has always been the Democrats (Jay Rockefeller the cheerleader) pushing for Nigergate inquiries.  The call to get the FBI involved looks like another attempt to turn the Nigergate conclusions into (yellow) mush now that the Italians are pointing fingers at the French as being responsible for Nigergate. Nigergate has gotten out of control for the pouting spooks and the Dims. The Italians say the renewed FBI investigation  could backfire on the liberals but presumably the FBI will set up a firewall if things get too hot for the Dims.  The FBI might even be able to point it at Bush like they got Nixon years ago.  [A few weeks ago I posted a copy of Director Mueller's internal FBI News release stating that Inspector Fitzgerald (Fitz Magoo, Fitz Clouseau, Wunderklutz...) was being considered as next FBI Director and Patrick Fitz was reported as not saying no.]
11 posted on 12/05/2005 8:34:24 AM PST by MilleniumBug
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To: ScaniaBoy
Alain Chouet...the same bozo that says al Qaeda is a myth.

Credibility Factor: 0

12 posted on 12/05/2005 9:50:22 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Thank you for the photo reference. It is interesting that Bongo would have a Secret Service Agent of France as an advizor. I wonder what Special Prosecutor might learn, or the FBI, for that matter, if they could get her in a cooperative mood?


13 posted on 12/05/2005 2:17:57 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: Candor7

If she is as loose-lipped as Plame was with Wilson, it will only take 3 dates, LOL!


14 posted on 12/05/2005 2:26:07 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: mosquitobite

Yes--Rockefeller, who initiated the original FBI investigation, is again trying to manipulate the investigation for his own purposes. Action needs to be taken against Rockefeller's blatant misuse of his Congressional authority to pressure the FBI.


15 posted on 12/05/2005 2:45:20 PM PST by Fedora
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To: ravingnutter

Having lost his job in 2002, Chouet becomes an intelligence expert in 2004.


16 posted on 12/05/2005 6:24:27 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: MilleniumBug

"Sen. Jay Rockefeller, vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee, had questions. Without more info about the "thoroughness" of the bureau's efforts, he said, "I cannot make a judgment on the accuracy of the conclusions."

Nice BS argument, Jay. Give it up. No matter how many times you investigate this thing, you're not going to be able to pin it on the Bush Administration.


17 posted on 12/05/2005 6:34:38 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Fedora
I found something interesting this morning, although I don't see how I could have missed it before, as much as I have researched Cannistraro and Johnson. All reports I have read say that Larry Johnson (always cited as "an associate of Vincent Cannistraro's") was the first to state that an Italian Parliamentary Commission Report implicated Ledeen in the forgeries, followed by like allegations by Cannistraro and Philip Giraldi. One such report is here. But according to an article I just found by Laura Rozen, there never was a parliamentary report and in a very odd twist, Cannistraro is quoted as backing that up. This is the report that Fitzgerald supposedly got a copy of from the Italians, as reported in the MSM. But if there was no report, there's something strange going on with this whole thing.
18 posted on 12/06/2005 8:29:12 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Very strange! If there was a commission report you'd think there'd be some documentation of it--hard to get something like that wrong unless you really try.


19 posted on 12/06/2005 8:38:58 AM PST by Fedora
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To: Fedora
...Implicitly the reference is to the French connection, or more precisely to the results obtained by SISMI during the counterespionage activities that saw Rocco Martino in the staring role. The «postman» of the false dossier regarding the sale of uranium to Iraq by Niger was paid by the 007’s from the Dgse in Paris.

«The stance of the Fbi – observed an Italian official – represents another significant example of how much our work is appreciated», work for which we have «a lot of optimism in regards to the possibility of identifying as soon as possible those responsible, the investigation is also aimed at ascertaining who, and for what motives, tried in vain to place the blame for the affair on the Italian authorities».

The objective of the FBI might have radically changed following the investigation carried out by SISMI and the recent declarations made by the ex number two of the French intelligence, Alain Chouet. In recent declarations Chouet denied a direct relationship between the DGSE and Rocco Martino thus inferring that the American authorities lied in regards to the Niger letters.

On July 20 the Director of the FBI, Robert S.Mueller III, wrote a letter to General Pollari in which he expressed the will for long term collaboration and in which he excluded Rome’s secret services and government from any role in the Nigergate affair.

Mueller expressed his «highest appreciation» for having been able to consult all of SISMI’s reports and paperwork and for having been able to talk to Italian officials. «This helped the Fbi to reach - wrote Muller – the proof that our theory was correct and that the affair was based upon personal profit excluding the theory of a disinformation campaign against the government of the United States». So no Italian conspiracy. So if Rome has nothing to do with it where are the FBI going with the new investigations? Given that the FBI and SISMI will be working together the work already done by SISMI will be of enormous support, in particular that regarding the results of the counterespionage against Rocco Martino and the Dgse.

20 posted on 12/20/2018 2:53:06 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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