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When did 'Happy Holidays' become anti-Christian?
Rochester Democrat and Chronicle | December 4, 2005 | Mark Hare

Posted on 12/04/2005 5:24:15 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

The columnist argues that the "dreadful" Iraq war "diminishes the joy of the Christmas season," and that "talk-radio land and the Internet blogosphere," should stop complaining that "Have a nice holiday," or "Happy holidays" or "Enjoy your holiday" are "part of a campaign to take God and Jesus out of Christmas."

He argues that Christians shouldn't be offended and speculates that non-Christians aren't as easily offended if you wish them "Merry Christmas."

However, he also claims that saying "Happy Holidays" is a matter of politeness to non-Christians and as "a courtesy."

Finally, the author insinuates that Christians are responsible for the commercialization of Christmas and concludes it is "far too soon" to be wishing people "Merry Christmas" anyway.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051204/NEWS0201/512040327/1002/NEWS


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: happyholidays; postedtowrongforum
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To: Blogger

The day before Halloween this year was the biggest holiday for Hindus.
I made a special point to wish my Indian friends a 'Happy Davalli(sp?).
They were very pleased to be acknowledged and thanked me for remembering.

Mutual respect for others' beliefs is the cornerstone of religious freedom. Taking Christ out of Christmas is blatantly disrespectful. Hare doesn't get that point - he is a moron.


21 posted on 12/04/2005 5:49:34 AM PST by Ludicrous (I support a woman's right to choose an effective contraception method)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hey hey, that's my local newspaper... compared to Gannett and the Ithaca Journal, it's pretty balanced, even conservative leaning. Compared to the Ithaca Journal, at least.


22 posted on 12/04/2005 5:50:52 AM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hey hey, that's my local newspaper... compared to Gannett and the Ithaca Journal, it's pretty balanced, even conservative leaning. Compared to the Ithaca Journal, at least.


23 posted on 12/04/2005 5:50:53 AM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Bizarre. I suppose this is a letter to the editor? It says nothing but "the columnist said this" and "the author said that".

The Rochester Democrat and Chronicle is owned by Gannett. Gannett won't allow the posting of articles or even excerpts. Therefore, I wrote a summary of the column with a link to the original at the bottom.

24 posted on 12/04/2005 5:51:55 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

However, this guy's a nut.


25 posted on 12/04/2005 5:52:09 AM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
And here's one from The (Lakeland, Florida) Ledger. Notice the editorial writer's name is omitted, as usual!

Published Saturday, December 3, 2005 Politicizing Christmas

Why must so many Americans drag Christmas into their so-called "culture wars" every year about this time?

Christmas is about the "Prince of Peace." Is nothing sacred?

Fight your culture wars somewhere else, people. There are plenty of other battlegrounds: abortion, birth control, political and venal corruption, separation of church and state, sex and violence in the entertainment media, ad infinitum. Not to mention the ultimate moral issue -- making war.

It's silly to argue about whether to say "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays." "Merry Christmas" has always been appropriate, and it always will be. But it's no slight of Christmas to say "Happy Holidays" either. This time of year brings not only Christmas but Hanukkah, New Year's Day and, more recently, Kwanzaa. Contrary to what some people seem to believe, greeting cards wishing "Happy Holidays" have been around for many decades.

It's also silly to try to arbitrarily rename a Christmas tree as a "holiday tree." To do so is just asking for trouble. A Christmas tree is just that. And why must we argue endlessly over whether to have manger scenes on public property? Isn't there enough private property available for such displays?

It's a free country, so people are entitled to make Christmas into a rallying point for their own political views if they insist. But we suspect that most Americans would much prefer to enjoy the Christmas season in peace.

26 posted on 12/04/2005 5:53:14 AM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: RedBeaconNY
compared to Gannett and the Ithaca Journal, it's pretty balanced, even conservative leaning. Compared to the Ithaca Journal, at least.

Compared to anything in Ithaca ...anything else is sort of conservative.

27 posted on 12/04/2005 5:53:27 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
When did 'Happy Holidays' become anti-Christian?

When they began renaming things and rewriting songs.

Smacks a little too much of the airbrushing done in Stalinist Russia for me.

If you have a Christmas tree and a Hanukkah menorah under a sign saying "Happy Holidays" all is well and good. If you have a "Holiday tree" then something is wrong.

The same as it would be if you labeled the Menorah a "Holiday Candlestick"

28 posted on 12/04/2005 5:53:51 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When the First Amendment was written dueling was common and legal. Think about it.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Non-Christians aren't as easily offended if you wish them "Merry Christmas" probably because they're in the minority in the US.

Having said that, I think many - Christian and non-Christian - are far too easily offended by trifles in general.

Yesterday, someone said "How are you?" to me and then walked away without even giving me time to answer. The nerve of some people!


29 posted on 12/04/2005 5:57:10 AM PST by clyde asbury (Atomic Amish)
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To: newfreep
Homosexuals didn't steal the word "GAY," it is all of us who use it rather than the exact word "homosexual." I never use gay except in addressing an issue such as this. I once asked a radio talk show host why he used gay rather than queer and he shut me off. Same thing in my estimation.
30 posted on 12/04/2005 5:57:29 AM PST by sinbad17
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To: Bushbacker1
We are noticing and complaining simply because they are doing it. Maybe not the most important thing in the world but not unimpportant either.

BTW. when I was still a kid I noticed the similarity between Santa and Satan. Probably just a coincidence but still interesting.

31 posted on 12/04/2005 5:57:55 AM PST by yarddog
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

When the liberals and liberal MSM declared war on anything Christmas.


32 posted on 12/04/2005 5:58:52 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Blogger

Those who find Christmas offensive have no right to take the day off. Or Thanksgiving Day, for that matter. Tell them that and see how they'll respond; I got an atheist to contradict himself there.

Last year, Dr. Charles Krauthammer wrote a column defending Christmas, even though he's Jewish. When he worked in a hospital, he liked to fill in for Christian doctors on Christmas Day--it was his gift to them--and in return they let him take Yom Kippur off. He has the right non-Christian attitude toward the holiday, I'll tell you that!


33 posted on 12/04/2005 6:00:37 AM PST by Berosus ("There is no beauty like Jerusalem, no wealth like Rome, no depravity like Arabia."--the Talmud)
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To: Blogger
It is offensive to call Christmas "Holiday"

I don't think so. It is a holiday. I get the day off just as any other holiday...therefore it is a holiday.

However, I do agree that it's good for christians to fight for the message of Christ and Christmas to become central.

I just am not fanatical about never calling Christmas a holiday. Silly. I have always said "Happy Holiday" to people along with "Merry Christmas". And will continue to do so.

34 posted on 12/04/2005 6:02:50 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Non-Christians aren't as easily offended if you wish them "Merry Christmas" probably because they're in the minority in the US.

Having said that, I think many - Christian and non-Christian - are far too easily offended by trifles in general.

Yesterday, someone said "How are you?" to me and then walked away without even giving me time to answer. The nerve of some people!


35 posted on 12/04/2005 6:02:50 AM PST by clyde asbury (Atomic Amish)
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To: Noachian
Last night I went to Walmart. It was packed. I wanted to check out a Nativity scene. There were lot's of "gifts" in the aisle. Happy holidays were everywhere. I ignored most but I did see a "Cinderella kit" for 10 dollars. I started to buy it but ... I'm trying to stick to "needs only" this year and my granddaughter already has Snow White. Anyway , everyone was going north so I zig zagged thru. No one was smiling. People looked tired. No excuse me's. I finally got to lawn and garden. They had lots of Nativities in boxes. They looked ....toylike. I was thinking though, that I ought to buy one to show Wal-Mart I appreciated the store selling them , even if it was hush hush, and stocked way back in the patio facing the wall where you didn't just walk by. I looked again at the crowds and my husband and I just Walked out. If any are left, and there were plenty, I might buy a marked down one after Christmas to give Walmart a backed handed thank you for their shh, here you go, attempt to please.
36 posted on 12/04/2005 6:02:51 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Why isn't 'Ramadan' secularized in the US?


37 posted on 12/04/2005 6:03:39 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Holiday Tree? ...hmmm, who's holy-day?

Chanukah Tree ...nope
Kwandza Tree ....nope.
Ramadan Tree ...nope.
Budda Tree ...nope
Pagan Tree ..well, maybe. But it's not Holy, just wood.
Islam Tree ...if only to hang an infidel
CHRISTmas Tree ...The Reason For The Season!

38 posted on 12/04/2005 6:08:04 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Pardon the double post. I just discovered lynx this morning.


39 posted on 12/04/2005 6:09:41 AM PST by clyde asbury (Atomic Amish)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

That happy holiday, just happens to be Christmas, which also just happens to be the most popular and celebrated holiday on earth. The assault upon Christmas is driven in part by jelousy , but mainly by the anti-Christian, politically correct anti everything that reflects American tradition's mob.

You do not hear the holiday greetings based upon the observances by other religions, reduced to , happy holiday or seasons greetings, etc.

This assault is upon Christians, Christ, and the United States of America.


40 posted on 12/04/2005 6:10:57 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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