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Bodies of Evidence, Gay advocates disagree about the dangers of bathhouses.(warning graphic text)
Philadelphia Weekly ^ | 11/23/05 | Steve Volk

Posted on 12/03/2005 9:21:04 PM PST by Dane

Bodies of Evidence

Gay advocates disagree about the dangers of bathhouses.

by Steve Volk

A tour of Club Body Center includes a trip downstairs, where David D'Amico hopes to create an orgy room out of a currently unused pool, and a stop in the laundry room, where high-tech computer-driven washers dispense just the right amount of detergent to keep sheets sanitary and costs low. "You find all kinds of things on these sheets," he says, lowering his voice. "Blood. Feces. It's all part of the business."

D'Amico spends more time with the business now than ever. For years Philadelphia's last gay bathhouse was presided over by a manager who reported to unseen owners. But D'Amico, 45, took a hands-on role at Club Body Center about six months ago, after he began hearing what he calls unpleasant "buzz."

In June PW printed an article in which local men claimed they could buy crystal meth from dealers inside the bathhouse. Federal prosecutor Tom Hogan even said the feds had rigged the place, a nondescript row home in the 1200 block of Chancellor Street, with hidden video cameras, hoping to record meth use.

D'Amico reacted to the PW story angrily at first. He flew to Philadelphia believing the reports weren't true. But then he started asking questions, and he soon saw the problem. "I kicked three people out for dealing drugs," he says. "I told them they weren't welcome."

Whether D'Amico can eradicate drugs from the property remains an open question. Local addiction and mental health therapist Albert Luciano says his clients say they can still score meth at Club Body. D'Amico says vigilance will be ongoing and that he's clearly needed onsite.

Bathhouses have received much attention in recent months, and the reason is crystal meth. National Public Radio sent a reporter into a bathhouse for a story on meth use, and interviewed D'Amico at a Club Body Center in Miami. Well-known activist Peter Staley caused a huge stir in New York's gay community by exposing the amount of unprotected sex, fueled by crystal, happening in that city's bathhouses. And Philadelphia's Jay Dagenhart, who appeared on PW's cover in February, recently taped an appearance on the Oprah Winfrey show (scheduled to air next week), where he discussed the nexus between crystal use, the bathhouse and increased incidence of HIV.

During his own meth addiction Dagenhart spent entire weekends at bathhouses in Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., and New York City. By the time he came down, he was HIV-positive.

D'Amico had heard stories like Dagenhart's before but acted only after he realized the drug could threaten his business. "People can still get this drug in many other places," he says. "But I have to protect my interests."

Getting into the bathhouse is easy.

Open the nondescript row house door, sign in at the counter and present ID. The man behind the counter hands over a key, a towel and a condom. Room 453, he says.

The downstairs area is outfitted like a tropical resort, with deck chairs and bright colors. The upstairs is dark and utilitarian, a plywood cave. The steps leading upstairs are narrow. And the private room is no bigger than a prison cell. An average-sized man could stretch his arms and span its width. The mirror across from the bed bears a single footprint where someone fought to gain traction. An empty condom wrapper lies on the floor.

The lighting is low, and the bed is a thin, plastic-coated mattress mounted on a wooden platform. The room's front wall, which incorporates the door, is only about three-quarters high. So conversation and the sounds of men having sex occasionally drift in. But the club music from the sound system drowns out most everything except the heavy footfalls that pass in the hallway outside the door. Those steps indicate someone is doing the bathhouse shuffle-a slow walk past the private rooms, looking for someone to hook up with.

The basic rules are fairly easy to divine: Men wear only towels for the most part, though a few add baseball caps or flip-flops. They either amble through the darkened halls prowling for a sex partner, or sit in their own room with the door open. Some men lie on their stomachs, advertising themselves as "bottoms" or receivers for anal sex. Others sit up in bed as an invitation to those who walk past.

Rest area: The Center's downstairs is decorated like a resort. The fourth floor includes a communal room where men watch porn from low-slung black benches. Some carry tubes of lubricant with them or bottles of amyl nitrate, which they inhale to enhance their orgasms. They ejaculate freely on the floor.

Hookups happen quickly. A man pokes his head into a room. A few mumbled words are exchanged. He steps all the way inside. The door closes.

In the halls men walk past, making eye contact if they're interested. They raise their eyebrows as they slide by, careful not to touch. Turn to watch them go, and they look over a shoulder, motioning with their head to be followed.

The setup includes a lot of room for rejection. Men make unwanted passes at each other and move on, some of them failing to find a partner all night long.

In many respects David D'Amico might be just what Club Body Center needs. He's a stocky, constantly smiling man from Buffalo, N.Y., who calls other men "baby" and talks as straight-forwardly as a finger-poke to the chest. "Things were slipping here," he says. "The managers are fine, but sometimes a place needs attention from the owner."

D'Amico ended up working in bathhouses by accident. His first love was the piano, and he spent many years playing and singing on cruise ships. But then he met Jack W. Campbell, a pioneer of bathhouses in the '60s and Club Body Center co-owner. "It wasn't out of any love of bathhouses that I started doing this," says D'Amico. "Jack needed some help running the business, and it just seemed like something I should get involved in."

Through Campbell, D'Amico is familiar with bathhouse history. Bathhouses were once like nightclubs. Bette Midler's career first took off in New York's gay community because of her bathhouse popularity. For years bathhouses stood as the one place gay men could go and be themselves. As a result, criticism of the bathhouse and its culture sounds to many gay men like an assault on their civil rights.

"The bathhouse is a uniquely gay institution, and I understand why people are fascinated by this dark, mysterious place where sex goes on so openly," says Kelly Groves, co-chair of Liberty City Democrats, a group that promotes political power for gays and lesbians in Philadelphia. "But the bathhouse is not a big part of our community the way it would've been in the '70s. Is it our dirty little secret? Maybe. As a gay activist, I think we should make sure these places are safe and well-monitored-and I also support their right to exist."

But bathhouses also have their detractors.

New York activist Peter Staley thinks bathhouses should supply 24-hour confidential STD testing services as a condition of doing business.

The most outspoken critic may be sex advice columnist Dan Savage, whose syndicated column appears in this paper. Says Savage: "My basic position is that if they traced as much disease to a Denny's as they can to a bathhouse, it would be closed in half an hour."

Savage says bathhouse closings in the wake of AIDS produced a backlash from health professionals. "There's a lingering fear they'll be perceived as homophobic if they do anything about bathhouses," says Savage. "So they send the gay community only messages the gay community will accept. But we also need to be told things we don't want to hear: Bathhouses facilitate a kind of sexual conduct we know is destructive and unhealthy and acts as a kind of lawn sprinkler shooting disease all over a community." (For more of the columnist's thoughts on bathhouses, see "Savage Talk," right.)

Nurit Shein, executive director of Mazzoni Center, and David Acosta of the city's AIDS department, both believe Philly's sole remaining bathhouse should stay open. And a study the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services conducted recently suggested that men who frequent bathhouses are cautious about what they do there.

"What we found is that men who attend bathhouses engage in riskier behavior elsewhere," says epidemiologist Trista Bingham. "Men who sought HIV testing in the bathhouse may behave more conservatively than they do when they have sex with someone in a private home, precisely because they're afraid of the amount of disease in the bathhouse."

D'Amico says the new computer system he installed for tracking members at Club Body Center indicates that 3,000 different men visited the club in the three months after it was installed. D'Amico says he's making improvements to turn Club Body into more of a gathering place.

In an attempt to rid the club of drug dealers, he's enforced random bag checks, and has made the downstairs lounge available to the Philadelphia Crystal Meth Task Force, co-founded by Jay Dagenhart and Michael DiPilla, as a distribution point for antidrug literature.

D'Amico has also replaced the carpets, repainted areas of the club, started cooking free outdoor lunches on the patio deck in summer, and outlawed smoking and chewing gum upstairs-which he says made the place seem cheaper and dirtier. He also plans to reinstitute pizza and movie nights, all in an effort to make the bathhouse a place for more than just hooking up. And that may be precisely what's needed.

"If the bathhouse is willing to work with us and allow us to do outreach, that's great," says Dagenhart. "If they're going to remove the drug dealers and keep them out, if they continue to be proactive on education and awareness-then great. But if they aren't going to be proactive about the obvious issues we face, then I wonder what the purpose is."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aids; bathhouseculture; hiv; hivbreadingground; homosexualagenda; meth; philadelphia; publichealth; stdlawnsprinkler
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41 posted on 12/04/2005 6:09:26 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: doug from upland
I guess some people have a death wish.

An aquaintance who has some connections with men working (professionally) in an AIDS-prevention program told me that at least one had admitted to him that he "councils" men on health issues by day and seeks sex from strangers in the park at night.

I have heard similar reports elsewhere along with the defense that we "homophobes" drive them to despair and crazy, irrational behavior. All our fault, you know, and Bush's, of course.

42 posted on 12/04/2005 6:38:46 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: LK44-40
P.S. to my own post (42) on the gay deathwish:

I heard a report on my local NPR station a few months ago stating that some large percentage (40-something, as I recall) of HIV-positive gays participating in a university hospital research study and receiving free state-of-the-art medical care, ~admitted~ that they were still having unprotected sex.

43 posted on 12/04/2005 6:46:23 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: Dane

This is just sick the devil is a busy man these days and these men get what they deserve if it's aids so be it. When will ppl. realize they are the problem and their behavior.


44 posted on 12/04/2005 6:48:06 AM PST by NYjarcola
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To: dagoofyfoot
And if you think the rest of us are waking up to this crap on our sheets then I know there's something seriously wrong with your brain!

Say what you ~really~ think, Dagoofyfoot! You go, dude! Good job.

45 posted on 12/04/2005 6:49:40 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: Hank Rearden

I know


46 posted on 12/04/2005 6:57:33 AM PST by mel
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To: Paleo Conservative
Some men lie on their stomachs, advertising themselves as "bottoms" or receivers

These people have no concept of anatomical plumbing...

47 posted on 12/04/2005 6:58:15 AM PST by ErnBatavia (403-3)
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To: Dane
....and you can bet that more taxpayers' dollars get applied to AIDS than to cancer.

Surreal.

Leni

48 posted on 12/04/2005 7:00:30 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: NYjarcola
When will ppl. realize [homosexuals] are the problem and their behavior.

Although I have been a strong conservative back to Barry Goldwater, I have become much more radical (angry) since the mid-80s. Rating right along with the Robert Bork slander in arousing me, was a Newsweek cover with 100 small photos of different AIDS victims. Of course, these photos were of people of all ages, races, and sexes and gave no hint (were implicitly denying) that the whole AIDS thing in America was a product of the bathhouse culture.

In earlier years, I had thought that libs were good people who just sometimes did bad things. These sorts or outrageous lies and distortions and character assasinations made me take a decidely darker view of the opposition.

49 posted on 12/04/2005 7:00:46 AM PST by LK44-40
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To: WideGlide; newzjunkey

My rant was for newzjunkey, not you...sorry!


50 posted on 12/04/2005 7:02:13 AM PST by dagoofyfoot
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To: Dane

Another revolting display of the homophilic lifestyle of love, enlightenment and understanding. Sarc


51 posted on 12/04/2005 7:54:10 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: CheyennePress
Most were tamer (that's a very relative term, mind you), but LA (e.g. West Hollywood) is just another perverse world all into itself. The crap that goes on there would blow your mind.

I remember some 20 years ago, the first (and only) time driving down Santa Monica Blvd in West Hollyweird with my two (straight) male friends.

Just what I saw on the street, was unbelievable. They were laughing...I was just...grossed out. I can't begin to imagine what happens behind closed doors.

You are right. There is some, perverse, unbelievable, nasty-beyond-imagination crap that happens in this "other world." If there ever was a vortex or hole with a direct connection to all things sick, perverse, and evil, West Hollywood ( as well as other parts of L.A.) would be one of them.

52 posted on 12/04/2005 9:00:37 AM PST by kstewskis ("Thank you ladies and gentlemen, you've been a wonderful audience" ...Rocky Rhodes)
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To: Nightshift

The most outspoken critic may be sex advice columnist Dan Savage, whose syndicated column appears in this paper. Says Savage: "My basic position is that if they traced as much disease to a Denny's as they can to a bathhouse, it would be closed in half an hour."


53 posted on 12/04/2005 9:04:34 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: Luke21

And to think simple prostitution is illegal for heterosexuals...

that had to be repeated


54 posted on 12/04/2005 9:09:54 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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To: Dane
"You find all kinds of things on these sheets," he says, lowering his voice. "Blood. Feces. It's all part of the business."

This is as far as I could go.

55 posted on 12/04/2005 9:21:38 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

that article was eye opening.

glory holes, circle jerks... etc.. and then then to ban smoking and gum. it cheapens the place.

strange , very strange.. demented.


56 posted on 12/04/2005 9:38:39 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: CheyennePress
When I lived in California, there were joints like this in LA. I knew 2 people who became HIV+ by visiting them. No surprise. You have unprotected sex with 20+ people in one night, and that's what happens. I lived with a gay rooommate, and while neither he nor I went to these places, I've seen people do lines of cocaine right off the bar in gay joints and 14-year old boys just passed around from 50-year old guy to 50-year old guy. It's almost like you're in some surreal dreamworld and just want to throw up. Friend or not, I gave up going to these bars.

I am very familiar with the homosexual community here in Nashville and the stuff you described is very accurate. The whole essence of male homosexuality is about the sex...period....and nothing else unless it leads back to the sex. It's not about men enjoying the company of men for commonality of perspective, for that homosexuals prefer women.

I can also tell folks that almost all of the male homosexuals over 30 my wife and I know or know of (scores) are HIV positive or in AIDS stages ...it's incredible....most just don't care. They assume they will get it and just do what they want. Plus their drinking, smoking and drug use is always over the top as well but they work hard to look thin. through anorexia

and even after they know they are HIV, they continue to pass it on with no qualms...especially to the young guys they turn out.

it's disgusting...and when one is dying and an old lover calls to check on them (rare)....the first question is "How does he look"...usually followed by "I, don't have time to help"

We are managing the affairs and care of a homosexual who has been a family friend for 25 years. He has been utterly abandoned by all of his homosexual lovers and acquaintances...100%...they don't want to be reminded of what awaits them and they are just plain selfish bastards.

anyhow...I am far more just..overwhelmed by the depravity that exists in that sector of our society than I ever figured.

Repugnant...how they ever got special status and the right to infect our culture like they have with what is in the end just irresponsible and vile is pretty revealing.

57 posted on 12/04/2005 10:03:59 AM PST by wardaddy (Merry Christmas ya'll)
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To: Dane
""D'Amico has also replaced the carpets, repainted areas of the club, started cooking free outdoor lunches on the patio deck in summer, and outlawed smoking and chewing gum upstairs-which he says made the place seem cheaper and dirtier.""

Carpets??? GROSS! even grosser than what goes on there, and that pretty bad! And they outlaw smoking?? hahahaha hypocritical or what? smoke is the least of their worries! Nothing could possibly make a place like this cheaper OR dirtier!!

But remember folks, they are just like us!! HA, if this place were for women to sit or lie and wait for a man, it would be shut down in no time! As well it should!
58 posted on 12/04/2005 10:16:20 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: The Cuban

You would be right!! Disgusting and gross as it they are, and as it is to say, they play in it. And urine as well. That practice, too, is part of their whole culture!! Check out "the little black book" sometime, if think I am kidding.


59 posted on 12/04/2005 10:28:22 AM PST by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Dane

I think we should have the government provide a place where men can have good clean clean anal sex.


60 posted on 12/04/2005 11:11:07 AM PST by Raycpa
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