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Feds probe SAM fired at airliner report
United Press International ^ | 12/2/2005 | United Press International

Posted on 12/02/2005 11:52:19 AM PST by RogerWilko

WASHINGTON, Dec. 2 (UPI) -- FBI agents and Homeland Security officials have been investigating the report of a possible missile fired at an American Airlines plane taking off from Los Angeles International Airport.

Sources told ABC News in Los Angeles that the pilot of American Airlines Flight 621, en route to Chicago, radioed air traffic controllers after takeoff from LAX. He told them a missile had been fired at the aircraft and missed.

The plane was over water when the pilot said he saw a smoke trail pass by the cockpit.

FBI agents believe it was a flare or a bottle rocket, but say they may never know if that's what it actually was, KYW Newsradio 1060 reported.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aa; aa612; airliner; airlines; attack; flight612; flight621; lax; missile; plane; sam; terror
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To: cpdiii

Acme now makes an even better rocket, you know.


21 posted on 12/02/2005 12:00:51 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: gathersnomoss
I'm now afraid to pass wind these days.

You should be ! We don't want to add to the global warming problem.

22 posted on 12/02/2005 12:01:07 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (The right wants victory, the left wants surrender. It's that simple.)
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To: theDentist

I hadn't seen the 6000 plus feet. No, that completely rules out any kind of firework, flare, or bottle rocket, by a couple of orders of magnitude.


23 posted on 12/02/2005 12:01:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Just another isolated incident...


24 posted on 12/02/2005 12:01:45 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: gathersnomoss

Oh, Acme. Never mind. :)


25 posted on 12/02/2005 12:01:54 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: dinoparty

11/28/2005

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1529700/posts


26 posted on 12/02/2005 12:01:57 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: RogerWilko
This is not an attempted terrorist attack.
It is merely an isolated suicide attempt by a Islamic bottle rocket.
27 posted on 12/02/2005 12:02:09 PM PST by Ignatz (I misunderstood you correctly the first time.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Even if a bottle rocket was able to penetrate the usual altitude, would a smoke trail be visible by the pilot of a fast moving jet? My guess is no.


28 posted on 12/02/2005 12:02:54 PM PST by al_c
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To: tiredoflaundry

Sorry guys. At least now I know where is went now.

29 posted on 12/02/2005 12:03:14 PM PST by M203M4
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To: RogerWilko

A bottle Rocket?


It is really wonderful how much the FBI has improved over the last six years under President Bush.

I feel Much Safer Now.


30 posted on 12/02/2005 12:03:37 PM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: antaresequity

"A commercial airliner departing LAX over the ocean would be at least 3500 feet"

Have you ever flown out of LA International? Looked like to me just a couple hundred feet above the beach.


31 posted on 12/02/2005 12:04:55 PM PST by Shermy
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To: RogerWilko

I think an airline pilot would know if it was a missile or not. I'll trust the pilot over what others think.


32 posted on 12/02/2005 12:05:25 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
bottle rockets do not soar to 6000 feet

Not to mention... Even if a bottle rocket could ever make it that high, how big it have to be for the pilot to notice a trail of smoke when you're moving at 400 or 500 mph?!

33 posted on 12/02/2005 12:06:08 PM PST by RogerWilko
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To: gathersnomoss

glenn beck fan? lol


34 posted on 12/02/2005 12:09:27 PM PST by meanie monster (http://sa3bin.com)
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To: MaDuce
My thoughts exactly. Does the FBI believe the public with buy that lame story? If so, THEY must be smoking something.

Flares are bright, bottle rockets too whimpy - don't have the fuel or the speed to chase a plane even at low-altitude immediatly after take off.

The bigger question is does anyone believe a SAM would miss at that distance?

I'm suspecting some home made device.

35 posted on 12/02/2005 12:09:32 PM PST by adamsjas
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To: Shermy

Not enough times to know...I just looked at a map and the runway is indeed right on the water.

But do you really believe that bottle rocket or flare was what he saw?

The more likely innocent culprit would be a D model rocket...

I wonder why the FBI and the feds always immediatley offer up such unfounded conclusions.

Why don't they state: We are investigating the incident and havn't ruled anything out from terrorism to bottle rockets.


36 posted on 12/02/2005 12:09:45 PM PST by antaresequity (PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED)
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To: theDentist

"....an investigating FBI agent believes that bottle rockets can move at such speeds and reach 6000+ feet...."

Acchhh! He knows perfectly well that the pilot had just jettisoned a fuel pump from inside the middle fuel tank that was about to start sparking and explode the tank/airliner......the bottle-rocket story is cover so the bad guys don't learn that we can jettison soon-to-spark pumps.

Now -- the REAL question is who paid to plant this story?


37 posted on 12/02/2005 12:11:03 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: al_c
would a smoke trail be visible by the pilot of a fast moving jet

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking, as you can see above! My server keeps losing connectivity so you beat me to the punch! It's jammin' up on me right now, as a matter of fact! DAMN!

38 posted on 12/02/2005 12:11:22 PM PST by RogerWilko
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To: al_c

And that is true also. Amazing how ignorant the American public is that allows the MSM to publish the most ludicrous reports from the moronic reporters. If the public were to hold the MSM accountable, this would stop. As it is, the masses are so dumb, they swallow everything shoveled their way so the MSM just keeps on shoveling.


39 posted on 12/02/2005 12:12:23 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
And in that other thread, we already stated bottle rockets do not soar to 6000 feet

And as someone who actually has used Flare guns, their max altitude is about 1000 feet on a good calm day.

40 posted on 12/02/2005 12:13:07 PM PST by adamsjas
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