what ever you say there SunTzu...
Posted on 12/01/2005 2:04:13 PM PST by johnmecainrino
Murtha: Army 'Broken, Worn Out'
LATROBE, Pa. (AP) -- Most U.S. troops will leave Iraq within a year because the Army is "broken, worn out" and "living hand to mouth," Rep. John Murtha told a civic group.
Two weeks ago, Murtha created a storm of comment when he called for U.S. troops to leave Iraq now. The Democratic congressman spoke to a group of community and business leaders in Latrobe on Wednesday, the same day President Bush said troops would be withdrawn when they've achieved victory, not under an artificial deadline set by politicians.
Murtha predicted most troops will be out of Iraq within a year.
"I predict he'll make it look like we're staying the course," Murtha said, referring to Bush. "Staying the course is not a policy."
Murtha, 73, the ranking Democrat on the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, expressed pessimism about Iraq's stability and said the Iraqis know who the insurgents are, but don't always share that information with U.S. troops. He said a civil war is likely because of ongoing factionalism among Sunni Arabs, and Kurds and Shiites.
He also said he was wrong to vote to support the war.
"I admit I made a mistake when I voted for war," Murtha said. "I'm looking at the future of the United States military."
Murtha, a decorated Vietnam war veteran, said the Pennsylvania National Guard is "stretched so thin" that it won't be able to send fully equipped units to Iraq next year. Murtha predicted it will cost $50 billion to upgrade military equipment nationwide, but says the federal government is already reducing future purchases to save money.
Murtha, who represents a western Pennsylvania district that includes Latrobe, was first elected to Congress in 1974.
Lt. Col. Chris Cleaver, spokesman for the Pennsylvania National Guard at Fort Indiantown Gap, said "there are some deployment concerns."
Cleaver said some guard units had to leave equipment in Iraq when they returned to the United States, which could cause training problems here.
But Cleaver also said most of the 2,100 Guard troops now deployed with the 2nd Brigade Combat Team can't be sent back to Iraq for a second tour of duty anyway, because of regulations that limit redeployment.
what ever you say there SunTzu...
Murtha is a sissified ex-Marine who has become a goffer for nancy pelosi. Marines don't fall much lower than that.
All hail the post police.
They aspire to be grammar police.
First, Thank you johnmecainrino, THANK YOU for posting this !! I didn't get to see or hear what "teflon-because-I-fought-in-a-war-and-i'm-old" crap from the "NEW mouthpiece of the DNC" murtha spewed TODAY. Thanks for posting it as I haven't yet seen the "other" thread.
As for TChris.....can you smell the "ozone"????
Oh, I suppose I could do that too, but I don't want to be a jerk. :-)
"Staying the course is not a policy."
I guess he has trouble remembering his Semper Fi training?
AND
"I admit I made a mistake when I voted for war," Murtha said. "I'm looking at the future of the United States military."
What is the military to Murtha? A big family that gives Dim Wing Nut handouts to the good chillens? The hand out era is over? Surprise, surprise!
The problem is that the military had 8 years of Clintonization and now it is getting back to normal and the Clintonian military supporters don't like the military
changing back into an effective projection of foreign policy. The military is being ruined because it is an all volunteer effective fighting force, not a semi-armed peace corps?
Little do I believe that the "military" is worn out. Why would the re-up rates be so high in theater, if that was true? Murthra is a desparado rep who is about to become unelected. Now his whining is invoking an intense dislike in our citizenry.
The mods decide when a duplicate should be pulled.
A simple thing.
Too many people have yet to understand that.
"Of course, he has the right to say what he wants"
Well, perhaps, but what about my right to demand he be tried for treason?
Senility is so sad to see in a once brave man.
Murtha is broken and need to be retired for a new model that is an American.
Vietnam sired two types of people.
G.W.B. vs. the Clinton's
John Kerry vs. John O'Neil
On one side we have the losers, the people that brought down the United States Government and standing in the world. The people that Left Vietnamese to be murdered. The people responsible for the 'nam vets being split on, and for the higher concentration of emotional damage and suicide rates because they were told they were baby killers.
On the other side we have people that love this country. Knew that war was lost in D.C., not in the swamps. Knew that a Strong U.S. was to our benefit and those that yearn for Freedom. Knew in their souls that our troops are our brightest, most heroric and honorable given they are willing to give their life so that others may have life.
G.W.B. witnessed the 'peace' movement and turned his back on it. G.W.B witnessed the cowardice in D.C., and as result will not waver.
The opposite was true of those like the Clinton's.
I'd take a 1000 like G.W.B over someone like Kerry or Murtha that learned all the wrong lessons from Vietnam.
Mail box full. Do you have a fax #?
just another big mouth dim wit
You can think Bill Clinton for that.
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