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Insurgent offensive on Iraqi city (Ramadi)
BBC ^ | December 1 2005

Posted on 12/01/2005 2:20:57 AM PST by chemical_boy

Insurgents have attacked US bases and government offices in Ramadi, in western Iraq, and then dispersed throughout the city, residents say.

Scores of heavily-armed insurgents fired mortars and rockets at the buildings and then occupied several main streets.

The attack came as local leaders and US military officials were meeting at the al-Anbar provincial governor's office.

Ramadi has been a rebel stronghold for many months.

Residents in Ramadi told the Reuters news agency that hundreds of heavily armed men in masks were patrolling the main streets of the city and had set up checkpoints.

Citizens said leaflets distributed by the men declared that al-Qaeda in Iraq, the group run by Abu Musab Zarqawi, was now in control of the city.


TOPICS: Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; iraq; msmterroristhelpers; ramadi; targetrich; zarqawi
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To: chemical_boy

In a related story, Congressman Jack Murtha announced today that "President Bush's policies in Vietnam have failed. The Tet offensive only emboldened Al Quaida, and if we don't pull out now, the Vietnamese government will never have the incentive to protect themselves from Tojo's armies." Murtha wanted to say more, but he was gently led away from the microphones by House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi, who gave him a pill...


41 posted on 12/01/2005 5:21:49 AM PST by COBOL2Java (The Katrina Media never gets anything right, so why should I believe them?)
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To: chemical_boy; Old Sarge

Anything you want to add?? The Reuters article on the same topic was full of Shiite. Assuming this is too.


42 posted on 12/01/2005 5:23:10 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: chemical_boy

BBC= Big Bullshiite Coverage


43 posted on 12/01/2005 5:26:16 AM PST by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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To: Steel Wolf

Thank you for being a voice of reason. I really appreciate your posts!


44 posted on 12/01/2005 5:26:28 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Steel Wolf; Coop; Old Sarge; All
For reference, see this post by someone who knows better.
45 posted on 12/01/2005 5:28:49 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Steel Wolf; Old Sarge; Coop
Try that AGAIN! ARGH!!

For reference, see this post....

46 posted on 12/01/2005 5:30:02 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: elfman2
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Ramadi is no sanctuary. We sanctioned the government and police. We maintain a presence and patrol the worst neighborhoods in force regularly. But it’s still a very dangerous, unfriendly and lawless city with a large underground insurgency that can get away with this.

That is a better way of putting it. The city is not under their control, or a safe haven, by any means. Ramadi (more correctly, the areas beyond the outskirts of Ramadi) is a sanctuary for AQIZ only so long as they stay hidden. There are a number of tribal factions that are willing to turn a blind eye or covertly support AQIZ out of percieved self interest. That's not exactly 'sanctuary', but it's better then they have it anywhere else.

The fact that this show of force appeared specifically to attack a meeting between certain tribal shayks and the Marine liasons is telling. If the tribes decide to play ball with the new government and us instead of AQIZ, then AQIZ is going to lose their last best hiding places near an urban area. If that happens, they're going to have to fall back to Al Qaim or worse. That may be the real motivation behind the attack, more so than trying to exert any real control over the streets of Ramaid.

47 posted on 12/01/2005 5:31:53 AM PST by Steel Wolf (* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
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To: StarCMC

I don't get it.


48 posted on 12/01/2005 5:32:35 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: StarCMC; Steel Wolf; Old Sarge; Coop
Well dang - I think I need to go back to bed...ROFL!! Hope you at least got a laugh! Sheesh!! I will try this once more, and if I screw it up again, I'll go back to bed! LOL!!!

I think I have it right this time! YIKES!!!

Today is NOT starting off well....

49 posted on 12/01/2005 5:32:45 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: chemical_boy
Al Qaeda in control in its dreams. They couldn't slaughter the Marines.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

50 posted on 12/01/2005 5:32:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: StarCMC; Old Sarge

So you're saying Old Sarge is a redneck? :-)


51 posted on 12/01/2005 5:37:04 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Coop; Old Sarge

ROFL!!!! Too much Pennsylvania in him to be a redneck.,,even if he DOES live in KY.,,


52 posted on 12/01/2005 5:47:33 AM PST by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: river rat
I read another story about this and it stated that four rounds were fired at the base. When I stayed at the air port in Baghdad camp strayer used to receive ten or more mortar or rocket rounds during a 24 hour period. A couple of occasions they received a lot more. Sounds like a slow day in Baghdad for reporters.
53 posted on 12/01/2005 5:52:46 AM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: COBOL2Java

nonono, she took the microphone and gave an even better rant.


54 posted on 12/01/2005 6:06:52 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: chemical_boy
Tomorrow's Headline provided by American Forces Media:

US, Iraqi Forces Back in Control of Ramadi; Insurgents suffer huge losses
55 posted on 12/01/2005 8:06:25 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: chemical_boy

Paahahahahha! Control of the city! These guys are lucky if they can control their own genitals, let alone control a city. Where exactly do these fools get their reputation as the "fierce mujahideen" anyway? Five minutes after marines show up, any of these Koran-bangers hanging around get blown into cracker toppings. Ironically, their most effective weapons (IEDs and roadside bombs) are weapons that work best when THEY ARE NOT AROUND.


56 posted on 12/01/2005 8:10:52 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: MEG33

I like this operation by the terrorists and their sympathizers.

It is great to have these rats pop up their heads so our troops can play "whack a mole" with them.


57 posted on 12/01/2005 8:15:11 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: chemical_boy

"Seize some streets" is the same thing as grasping at straws. The media loves to document these pseudo accomplishments by these sub humans. Yet they never want to write a positive story about our troops. The Media is throwing everything they can because they know momentum is not on their side anymore


58 posted on 12/01/2005 8:15:14 AM PST by slowhand520
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To: RangerM

Brilliant!

What a great military strategist you would make!


59 posted on 12/01/2005 8:17:20 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Steel Wolf
With the elections coming up, AQIZ desperately needs publicity and credibility. It may be the start of a mini-Tet offensive, one where they know they're wasting the rest of their strength, but are betting on the media to magnify and inflate their actions.

The first thing I thought when I read the article is 'They can't be this stupid'. The only reason for even trying is because they're in a very bad way, and are willing to waste what little strength they have left on a symbolic attack. If they lose what safety Ramadi once held, then they're finished. They may as well head to the Syrian border, and not stop when they get there.
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Good analysis!
60 posted on 12/01/2005 8:19:34 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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