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It's ruled sleep sex
Toronto Sun ^ | 2005-11-30 | Natalie Pona

Posted on 11/30/2005 1:02:46 PM PST by Clive

It wasn't a sexual assault -- it was sleep sex.

In an unusual case in a Scarborough, Ontario, courtroom, Jan Luedecke was acquitted of sexual assault after a judge ruled he was asleep during the attack -- a disorder known as "sexsomnia."

"This is indeed a rare case ... His conduct was not voluntary," said Justice Russell Otter, as Luedecke's victim shook, sobbed and then left the courtroom.

The judgment has outraged women's groups.

"This is infuriating. It's another case of the courts not taking a woman seriously, adding yet another list to the list of excuses which men use for sexual assault," said Suzanne Jay, of the Canadian Association of Sexual Assault Centres.

Luedecke, a 33-year-old landscaper, met his victim at a party on July 6, 2003. Both had been drinking.

WOKE UP HAVING SEX

The woman, who can't be named, had fallen asleep on a couch. She woke up to find him having sex with her. She pushed him off, then reported the rape to police.

She didn't know Luedecke before that night.

Luedecke claimed he fell asleep on the same couch and woke up when he was thrown to the floor.

He only suspected he had had sex after using the bathroom and discovering he was still wearing a condom, court heard. He confessed to police.

During his trial, sleep expert Dr. Colin Shapiro testified Luedecke had parasomnia -- a disorder with symptoms such as sleepwalking. Shapiro testified Luedecke suffered from sexsomnia, which is sexual behaviour during sleep.

BROUGHT ON BY ALCOHOL

It was brought on, he said, by alcohol, sleep deprivation and genetics.

Luedecke previously had sleep sex with four girlfriends, court heard.

Yesterday's decision comes after a hearing on whether Luedecke had a mental disease. Had he been found not criminally responsible, he would have had his case reviewed by a mental health board. That could have meant restrictions on his freedom, said University of Toronto law professor Hamish Stewart.

But his disorder doesn't mean he has a mental disease, Otter ruled. That means he faces no sentence.

News of the success of the sexsomnia defence may give rapists ideas, Stewart said.

"We may hear more forms of this defence from accused persons," he said, adding he has never previously heard of such a case.

Luedecke has cut down on his drinking and is taking pills to stop a repeat of his crime, court heard.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: canuckistan; colinshapiro; crazyjudges; meninblack
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1 posted on 11/30/2005 1:02:48 PM PST by Clive
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To: Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...

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2 posted on 11/30/2005 1:03:40 PM PST by Clive
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To: Clive; SittinYonder

BS! The only reason he doesn't remember is because he was drunk.

Sexsomnia - I swear, an excuse for everything.


3 posted on 11/30/2005 1:04:35 PM PST by eyespysomething (This ashtray, the paddlegame, the remote control, the lamp and the chair. That's all I need!)
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To: Clive

Uh yeah. That's it. I was Sleepscrewing.


4 posted on 11/30/2005 1:04:54 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Clive
Both had been drinking.

How did I know this would be part of the story?

5 posted on 11/30/2005 1:05:02 PM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Clive

Sleep sex? Hmmmmmmm!!!!

Gotta mull over this one.


6 posted on 11/30/2005 1:05:19 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Clive

i suppose he was sleeping when he put the condom on?

what a bunch of hooey!


7 posted on 11/30/2005 1:05:27 PM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you.)
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To: Clive

I reccomend the victim resort to a Sleepshooting.

Fair is fair.


8 posted on 11/30/2005 1:05:40 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Clive

How is it that the woman is not raped just because he was supposedly asleep? Her suffering is not lessened by his being asleep.


9 posted on 11/30/2005 1:06:34 PM PST by w1andsodidwe
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To: Clive

The ultimate wet dream.


10 posted on 11/30/2005 1:06:44 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: camle
i suppose he was sleeping when he put the condom on?

BINGO!

11 posted on 11/30/2005 1:06:45 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Clive

Just when you thought you'd heard it all....


12 posted on 11/30/2005 1:06:45 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Clive
This isn't unprecedented, although the fact that he managed to put on a condom would have caused me to lean against finding that he was asleep. If he's asleep while he commits the act, then there's no actus reus; it isn't voluntary. It would be the same as if he tripped and fell on her or something (while they were both naked for whatever reason).

I don't know about "giving rapists ideas," because this has been part of the common law for centuries. And judges usually don't buy it.

13 posted on 11/30/2005 1:06:46 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: PaulaB; Dashing Dasher; najida; day10

What the heck?


14 posted on 11/30/2005 1:07:17 PM PST by EX52D ((Please excuse my "downer" mood today))
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Sleepshooting

Perfect.

15 posted on 11/30/2005 1:07:41 PM PST by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: Clive
What absolute Bravo Sierra and what an absolute moron this judge is.

However, I did find this interesting...

The judgment has outraged women's groups.

And yet those same groups gave a pass to the knowing pervert in CHief, Bill Clinton.

16 posted on 11/30/2005 1:08:05 PM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Clive
adding yet another list to the list of excuses which men use for sexual assault

I must admit, I'm making a mental note of it. kidding...really
17 posted on 11/30/2005 1:08:10 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Ham & Eggs: A day's work for a hen, A lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Clive
He only suspected he had had sex after using the bathroom and discovering he was still wearing a condom, court heard. He confessed to police.

Ah yes. Waking up with an unexplained condom is a common and embarrassing problem for men.

If the guy "didn't know what he was doing," I really doubt that he'd have wrapped his winky beforehand.

The judge needs to be punished. Perhaps by a fellow who later wakes up wearing an unexplained condom.

18 posted on 11/30/2005 1:08:32 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Gordongekko909

There is a famous case of a man killing his in-laws and getting away with it, based on a sleepwalking defense.


19 posted on 11/30/2005 1:08:37 PM PST by linear
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To: eyespysomething

I thought they had outlawed Hostess Twinkies before bedtime in Canookie-stan. How could you blame a man for loosing it after consuming this readily available afrodisiac. No wonder their government collapsed.


20 posted on 11/30/2005 1:08:41 PM PST by Calusa (Say Nick, was ya ever stung by a dead bee?)
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