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I am a conservative - Long (Double secret vanity)
Rice08

Posted on 11/30/2005 7:11:55 AM PST by rice08

I am a conservative, I think there is no more fitting place to post this than here at FR, the only caveat I will say is that this post has nothing to do with my handle (rice08)

 

To quote Charles foster Kane, I have a statement of principles on our country and the world as a whole, here is what I believe in no particular order:

 

 

-          Cut taxes whenever possible for any reasonable cause

-          Limit government spending, privatize when possible… You want Medicare? Here is a voucher for blue cross/blue shield, go nuts

-          Ronald Reagan was a great president and had a great deal to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union

-          Commies aren’t cool

-          The Chicoms are a real and strategic threat to the security of the United States and the world, I avoid “made in china” whenever humanly possible

-          Always lukewarm on “free trade” because you can call something free trade and it can be something else entirely (see “De-Regulation”)

-          I am strong supporter and believe in the *entire* constitution of the United States, not just certain amendments. that includes the 2nd.

-          Judges should not legislate

-          Treason is real and exists today

-          Democrats have lost their way from the days of Truman

-          Education is a silver bullet for many of society’s problems ; that includes generous vouchers for all takers from any background (From home schooling to the church of frank) I don’t care

-          The MSM is liberal and so are our college campi

-          Freedom of religion is not freedom FROM religion and our great history of religious tolerance proves it

-          The UN and the EU have become corrupt and should be marginalized as institutions

-          The ACLU is a serious threat to this country

-          Lynn Stewart deserves to rot

-          The US Armed forces have been the greatest force for human freedom in the history of mankind.

-          Impeachment of Billary was a vindictive and political act but he was and is a dirtbag.

-          John McCain is a hero to this country but for McCain-Finegold alone deserves great scorn (not to mention his other RINO tendencies)

-          Hillary Clinton is a great political threat to this country

-          Saudi Arabia is not our friend

-          Drill everywhere

- Michael Moore isn’t a patriot

-          Invest in every kind of alternative fuel possible (that includes government investment as well)

-          At the very least have a cold hard look at the drug war

-          None of this 3-5 years for murder 2 crap, lock ‘em away

-          I support the death penalty but I won’t man the barricades for it

-          The war on terror is the most important issue of our time

-          Free peoples and free markets work better than any other form of human civilization, government must exist to protect the rights of the individual first and foremost against the sometimes evil nature of individuals

-          I think corporations should be good US citizens not members of some undefined and unequal global community (see free trade)

-          Iron clad and armed borders with a organized flow of honest immigrants from all corners of the earth are welcome. (I say this as a proud immigrant to this country)

-          The current Republican order in Washington is a virtual disgrace when it comes to the issues of spending and immigration

-          Wal-Mart is not evil except for their enabling of the PRC

-          Unions work when they understand and believe in the capitalist system of supply and demand

 

 

You will of course note that some hot button issues are missing. Well guess what, I am by most standards pro-choice, save your arguments. On top of that I couldn’t give two bottles of jack if two or 3 or 5 of anybody or anything got married while being officiated by their pet poodle. I am also a militant atheist who doesn’t give THREE bottles of jack what you believe in and would never dream of telling you what to believe about anything, that said, keep ID out of my face, thanks. I am not going to change in this regard and that isn’t the reason why I posted this.

 

My point is that all of my conservative friends and family believe in virtually this same platform and we all vote republican. The problem is that if a pro choice republican tried to run for national office with this long list of deeply held beliefs they are DOA due to the passionate and sincere beliefs of the conservative “base” . I am not telling anybody to abandon their faith or their beliefs, quite the opposite.

 

I am wondering if those reading this understand that the conservative revolution that has been brewing for 40 years is threatened because of this make or break issue. Not because moderating the party’s pro-life stance will attract a larger pool of voters but because it keeps good conservatives out of power, plain and simple.

 

Discuss

 

BT

 

 

 

 


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1 posted on 11/30/2005 7:11:56 AM PST by rice08
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To: rice08
Well guess what, I am by most standards pro-choice, save your arguments.

Please explain...

2 posted on 11/30/2005 7:14:25 AM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: rice08

When you look out your window, do you see this revolving?

3 posted on 11/30/2005 7:14:53 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: rice08

Have your flame suit on?


4 posted on 11/30/2005 7:15:04 AM PST by misterrob
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To: rice08

Democrats have lost their way from the days of Jefferson.......


5 posted on 11/30/2005 7:15:45 AM PST by Red Badger (There are no female angels..............)
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To: rice08
I love being a conservative. We believe in individual liberty, limited government, capitalism, the rule of law, faith, a color-blind society and national security. We support school choice, enterprise zones, tax cuts, welfare reform, political speech, homeowner rights and the war on terrorism. And at our core we embrace and celebrate the most magnificent governing document ever ratified by any nation -- the U.S. Constitution. Along with the Declaration of Independence, our God-given natural right to be free, it is the foundation on which our government is built and has enabled us to flourish as a people.

Showing just how out of touch with reality MSM and the Democrats really are, and how desparate MSM and their Democrat partners are to derail GW Bush's efforts to bring freedom and democracy to Iraq, something until now they have never known.

It is truely despicable how far MSM and their political pals in the Democrat party will go to undermine this nation, reaching so low that they willingly support murderous dictators like Saddam Hussain and fundamentalist movements like Al qaida; they are so willing to sacrifice the lives and freedom of 20 million people in Iraq just so they can score cheap political points at any cost against the Bush administration.

-- RUSH

6 posted on 11/30/2005 7:15:50 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

LOL =)


7 posted on 11/30/2005 7:18:09 AM PST by Aggie Mama
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To: rice08
Commies aren’t cool

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No? Welcome to Free Republic.

8 posted on 11/30/2005 7:19:53 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rice08

Why isn't this thread in chat - where it belongs?


9 posted on 11/30/2005 7:20:08 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

you know my FR homepage always went to the newspage, I never even noticed chat before :) I wouldn't mind if a op moved it


10 posted on 11/30/2005 7:23:03 AM PST by rice08
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To: rice08
Wal-Mart is not evil except for their enabling of the PRC


Have you been in their bathrooms? Sometimes a smell is so bad, so funky, so unsettling its..........evil. Whence comes this great evil?
11 posted on 11/30/2005 7:23:14 AM PST by macamadamia (The great dangerous non-sequitur du jour: oil-independence will stop terrorism.)
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To: rice08
"You will of course note that some hot button issues are missing. Well guess what, I am by most standards pro-choice, save your arguments. On top of that I couldn’t give two bottles of jack if two or 3 or 5 of anybody or anything got married while being officiated by their pet poodle. I am also a militant atheist who doesn’t give THREE bottles of jack what you believe in and would never dream of telling you what to believe about anything, that said, keep ID out of my face, thanks. I am not going to change in this regard and that isn’t the reason why I posted this."

The devil's always in the details, isn't it?

12 posted on 11/30/2005 7:24:03 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: rice08

I agree with your points. I think the hope of the world is education and perhaps a religious revival.


13 posted on 11/30/2005 7:25:15 AM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: frogjerk

I view pro choice as this: the act of abortion is a horrible and painful act that I don't wish any person or any family to have to deal with. However it's not a modern day holocaust and I can't make that a litmus test for anything from elected officials to judges.


14 posted on 11/30/2005 7:25:41 AM PST by rice08
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To: rice08
Well guess what, I am by most standards pro-choice, save your arguments.

Discuss

What, do you just want us to blindly agree with you?

15 posted on 11/30/2005 7:27:21 AM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: rice08

I'd make my top priorities these:

1. National security. This means fighting the war on terror, protecting our borders, and deporting anyone who doesn't belong here. Note to the left - that means deport them even if they are voting for you. Note to the right - that means deport them even if they are working cheaply in your factory or cleaning your house or babysitting your kids. Note to those who complain about the cost - We'll more than make up the cost in reduced health care fees, reduced strain on the court and prison systems, fuller employment for citizens and those here legally.

2. Tax reform. Abolish the IRS. Abolish income tax and estate tax, and corporate taxes. This will also help a great deal with #1 by closing many of the loopholes for terrorist money laundering. It will also help with #3 by keeping the likes of Hillary from using the IRS to blackmail enemies and coerce on "friends".

3. Clean house in the justice system. It should provide justice for ALL of us. Justice means sending criminals to jail. It does NOT mean that if the criminal is rich and can afford a pricey lawyer that he gets off. It does not mean that the rich get to "buy" laws by buying legislators. It does not mean that if you commit murder, but you can manage to find a case where another murderer got a lighter sentence that you should get a lighter sentence, too. When the citizenry no longer has faith that it will be protected by the law, productivity and security decrease. Fixing the justice system will also help with #1.


16 posted on 11/30/2005 7:29:25 AM PST by IndyInVa (There either needs to be less corruption, or more opportunity for me to participate in it.)
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To: dpa5923
"What, do you just want us to blindly agree with you?"

Evidently.

17 posted on 11/30/2005 7:29:56 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: rice08
I am also a militant atheist who doesn’t give THREE bottles of jack what you believe in and would never dream of telling you what to believe about anything

I'm curious exactly what you mean by "militant" atheism? I too am an atheist, well, agnostic at least but there is nothing militant about it. I respect each person's right to believe as they would. I'm not offended by others expression of religion (unless it's of a "militant" variety or their beliefs are harmful to me or to society in some way). I celebrate Christmas out of tradition and in honor of my christian upbringing and family. I can say Merry Christmas without flinching - it just doesn't have the same meaning for me as I imagine it does for most christians.

I have no problem with ID - if they want to teach it in schools, I have no problem with it as long as it's a matter of choice and both sides are presented.

Militant atheists piss me off - like the ones trying to tear down the cross on Mt. Soledad here in San Diego - if it offends you, don't freaking go there or look at it!

But you don't really sound like one of those so why "militant"?

18 posted on 11/30/2005 7:31:02 AM PST by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: IndyInVa
4: Greater support for Israel. Forget the palestinian state BS. Israel needs not only our full support but must be allowed to do what must be done to protect their people. This also includes giving them the green light to attack Iran.

5: A more independant foreign policy. We should not be waiting for the aproval of the UN or our 'allies' to take actions vital toour national security. While we wait for world approval Iran is busy making a nuclear bomb.

19 posted on 11/30/2005 7:34:07 AM PST by Paul_Denton (The U.S. should adopt the policy of Oom Shmoom: Israeli policy where no one gives a sh*t about U.N.)
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To: rice08
...sounds to me that you are more libertarian that conservative; if so, welcome to the camp. I would pick two issues with you:
1. The palpable evidence of God (pointing out the fact that He is very much a laissez faire diety, leaving it to us to screw up our lives...rarely interferring in the wake of hardships, hurricanes, or human hurt).
2. Some sort of campaign finance reform is needed to return the American political process to democracy (currently, the electorate is voting for the candidate who can raise the most money through special interests or who is independently wealthy.)
20 posted on 11/30/2005 7:34:17 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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