TRY AGAIN, MR. PRESIDENT -- THOSE WERE EMPTY WORDS [The Presidnet's Amnesty Program]

Neal Boortz ^ | Nov. 29, 2005 | Neal Boortz

[conservativecorner]

Yesterday, George W. Bush strode to a podium in Tucson, Arizona (I love Tucson!) and against a backdrop of law enforcement officers, announced his latest plan to crack down on illegal aliens. There was nothing in his speech we haven't heard before, and his new immigration policy is just as contradictory as the old one. Among the initiatives announced:

We should build more jail cells to hold illegal aliens. Good idea. The speeding up of deportations, a crackdown on fraudulent identity papers, and a hardening of the border with more surveillance. So far, so good. Then the nonsense started to flow. The president urged Congress to pass his guest-worker amnesty program and repeated the nonsense that the illegal aliens are here "to fill jobs that Americans will not do."

Same old, same old. It is impossible to stand there and say you're going to crack down on illegal immigration while at the same time say that you are going to reward people who broke our immigration laws. The president says it's not amnesty. Ok, now we've finally caught the president in a lie. OF COURSE it's amnesty! When you tell someone who has broken the law that you are not only going to ignore their illegal conduct, but you are actually going to reward them for it, then you have more than plain old garden variety amnesty, you have amnesty with perks!

As for the oft-repeated line that the illegal aliens fill jobs Americans won't, that's also a load. Companies may not be able to fill those jobs with Americans at the same low wages they pay Mexicans, but there are plenty of people in this country that would do the work at the right price. OK .. so the price of headless chickens, landscaping and construction might go up, but at least the people receiving those paychecks would be law-abiding residents of this country, most of whom would be citizens. There is something wrong with the idea of celebrating lower home prices when those lower prices are brought with disrespect for the laws of our country. It gets worse than that. We are threatening our very security by singing the praises of illegal aliens in our workforce. Just two weeks ago we were interviewing a Texas congressman who was telling us that U.S. intelligence agencies have knowledge that Al Qaeda terrorists have moved to Mexico, adopted Hispanic identities, learned the Spanish language, and then moved right into the United States across our porous borders.

George Bush failed to address the problem appropriately yesterday, but this isn't strictly a George Bush issue. There is absolutely no willingness on the part of either political party to crack down on illegal immigration. There are simply too many votes to be had in the Hispanic community. So as a result, our security as a nation is threatened and our cities and states are overrun with illegal aliens.

I'm sure representatives of Al-Qaeda are preparing to apply for their guest-worker permits as we speak.

[nicmarlo]

For the third time:

Why do you defend LAWBREAKERS: American businesses hiring illegal aliens and illegal aliens?

[Arizona Carolyn]

Big business. I agree with Bortz and his speech wasn't met with resounding praise here in AZ... on this issue both parties are pretty pathetic.

[Arizona Carolyn]

Do you have a lot of illegal's in MN? If not then you have no idea how bad it's gotten here in the SW... this is a serious subject that is getting worse by the day... most Meth in the country is now being brought into the USA from Mexico along with the other drugs, the list is so long that unless you experience living in the midst of this invasion it's almost impossible to explain.

[Dane]

Dane, if you wish to talk about Unions, then ping me to a thread ABOUT unions.

Of which you will never reply to.

Like I said before the "elephant" in the living room is the union mentality and the welfare state, and which you all never want to say a word about, just show animus towards people named Jose or Maria, putting tar on a 100 degree day or cleaning toilets.

[sam_paine]

Put your flamesuit on Patriot! You've got incoming by simply suggesting some kind of program other than building a wall!

[nicmarlo]

Why do you defend lawbreakers, Dane: Business owners who hire illegal aliens, and illegal aliens?

L.A. Emergency Rooms Full of Illegal Immigrants
Fox News, March 18, 2005

Los Angeles County’s emergency rooms are overburdened by the uninsured and overwhelmed by illegal immigration. Sixty percent of the county's uninsured patients are not U.S. citizens, and more than half are here illegally. With about 2 million undocumented aliens in Los Angeles County alone, patients in the County’s overcrowded emergency rooms can wait days for a hospital bed for necessary surgeries. In 2004, Los Angeles County spent $340 million to treat the uninsured – roughly $1,000 for every taxpayer – while illegal immigrants receive medical treatment for free.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,150750,00.html

[Dane]

And again not one word of the trial lawyers from you, niccy.

[Arizona Carolyn]

I would to!!!!! Example, Irons... my expensive, made in china, iron bit the dust and I borrowed one from my neighbor... her's is one of the old, heavy-duty made in USA irons... let me tell you, there is no comparison! Would I pay more for a new iron of that quality? Absolutely.

[nicmarlo]

This thread is not about trial lawyers, Dane. It's about ILLEGAL ALIENS. If you want to talk about trial lawyers, ping me to a thread, and we can discuss trial lawyers.

For the fifth time: Why do you defend lawbreakers, Dane: Business owners who hire illegal aliens, and illegal aliens?

Mexico, U.S. ignore illegal immigration
Los Angeles Daily News, December 25, 2004

Over 28,000 foreigners in detained in California prisons, costing taxpayers a staggering $500 million to $800 million a year. One-half of these prisoners are illegal aliens from Mexico. Nevertheless, in the state capital in Sacramento, it rare to hear the term "illegal aliens." In an example of what George Orwell called newspeak, California politicians believe that if they don't publicly name this contributing cause of the State’s ongoing fiscal crisis, it will vanish. According to the California Board of Prison Terms, "all other nations accept all of their prisoners for transfer" – except Mexico. Our biased media hates placing even a smidgen of blame on Mexico for illegal immigration. But in fact, most solutions won't be found in Sacramento or Washington. The lasting fixes must come from Mexico's legislature, courts and President Vicente Fox.

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200%257E24781%257E2618370,00.html

[Arizona Carolyn]

Who said anything about hating Bush? Just because some of us actually refuse to drink the kool-aid and criticize when it's warranted, doesn't mean we hate Bush. I loved and voted for Ronald Reagan, but I wasn't crazy about his tax reform at the time. On the other hand, I hated everything about Bill Clinton and never voted for the man.

[TXBSAFH]

Cu the straw man arguements. Why do you defend lawbreakers?

[TXBSAFH]

KNow you can suggest deproting them all and arresting, jailing, and the seizure of all assest of the employers as well.

[Dane]

This thread is not about trial lawyers, Dane.

And the whole health care mess is not because of illegal immigrants, eiher, niccy.

You know that, but wish to ignore the role of trial lawyers in the health care mess, that is your perogative, but it is also my right to point out the trial lawyers role in the health care mess.

I can understand why you one issue people get all snippy, about the truth getting out.

[nicmarlo]

I never said "the whole health care mess is not because of illegal immigrants" but numerous bankruptcies are a direct result of the millions of illegal aliens who are given "free" services by hospitals and others in the medical field.

Now, for the sixth time: Why do you defend lawbreakers, Dane: Business owners who hire illegal aliens, and illegal aliens?

The Costs of Illegal Immigration
Center for Immigration Studies, August 25, 2004

A new study from the Center for Immigration Studies is one of the first to estimate the impact of illegal immigration on the federal budget. Based on Census Bureau data, the study estimates that households headed by illegal aliens used $10 billion more in government services than they paid in taxes in 2002. These figures are only for the federal government; costs at the state and local level are also likely to be significant. Among the largest federal costs: Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion). The study also finds that if illegals were given amnesty, the fiscal deficit at the federal level would grow to nearly $29 billion.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscal.html

[sam_paine]

Sixty percent of the county's uninsured patients are not U.S. citizens,

Yikes. So 40% of patients are US CITIZENS sucking off my tax teet? And I wonder how many of them actually bother working.

[TXBSAFH]

Let me be the seventh: Why do you defend lawbreakers, Dane: Business owners who hire illegal aliens, and illegal aliens?

[nicmarlo]

I doubt that even if we pose that question 70 x 7, we'd ever get an honest answer from Dane.

[TXBSAFH]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1530265/posts

Another reason to oppose the shamnesty.

[Itzlzha]

Oh boy...is Dane in RARE form here...

If it's not Unions, its' Trail Lawyers...they both SUCK, granted, but it's not JUST them at fault here...try THIS!

and this...

and gee, Dane...if Illegal Infiltrators are no big whoop...just WHY did the Highway dept have to spend Tax $$$ for these signs?

Dane, you are an OBL fool, and a shill for Illegal behaviour that supports Drug Trafficking, Terrorism, Murder, Robbery and Rape.

On these boards, the following pic is my best guess at your real look...note: you are the one on the right, and the rest of FR is on the left...straw man!

[TXBSAFH]

If I got an honest, non insulting discussion for dane I would be shock to the nth degree.