Posted on 11/28/2005 5:08:30 PM PST by Esther Ruth
So, Jews, the goyim will win after all? By Stan Goodenough
November 28th, 2005
According to the newspapers here in Israel, Jews are rejoicing because the International Federation of the Red Cross and the Red Crescent Societies (IFRCRC) has finally agreed to open its doors to the Red Shield (or Star) of David, the Israeli organization that offers equivalent services to the Red Cross and Red Crescent.
Ok, so there’s a small catch: The Israelis cannot actually use their Red Star of David in this new arrangement, but must agree to a new symbol, a Red Crystal, inside which, for advertising purposes alone, they may now and then insert a small Star of David.
But hey, what’s the big deal? I mean, the Israeli organization has been fighting for decades, almost pleading, to be recognized in the same way the Muslim world’s Red Crescent Society been. And now, at last, it will be.
The fact that the Jews have to drop the symbol that represents their nation, their people, their history and their land, because the Red Cross and Red Crescent so demand it, well, that’s really a small price to pay.
There’s not much point in quibbling over a symbol, after all.
And what difference will it make if injured people are taken to hospital in an ambulance with a Red Crystal instead of a Magen David Adom emblazoned on its side?
Watching it speeding by, the Jews can be proud of the fact that once more they fulfilled their calling to be “a light to the nations” by giving in to those nations’ demands and not insisting on what is justly, and rightfully, theirs.
Also, in these very same days, the newspapers here in Israel are full of reports about Jews rejoicing for other, not dissimilar reasons. The majority of Israelis are apparently thrilled at the political revolution that is taking place before their eyes.
Finally they have a new party, a new leader, a new way to vote for. Hope is in the air, a strong leader is soon going to disengage them from the Palestinian Arabs, draw Israel’s final borders and so, at long last, win for Israel a place of recognition and acceptance, and perhaps even some praise, in the world.
Ok, so again there’s a small catch: To achieve this peace, this acceptance, the Jews cannot actually have the most important and cherished parts of their homeland. They have to let go the cradle of their nationhood, the burial places of their national patriarchs and heroes – Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Rachel, David – they have to relinquish, for all time, their claims to Hebron and Shechem and Bethel and Bethlehem; the mountains of Samaria, the Judean hills and half of Jerusalem, “the eternal capital of the Jewish people.”
But hey, for the sake of peace, this is surely a small price to pay. After all, Hebron, Shechem, the eastern part of Jerusalem – all these places have many more Arabs than Jews living in them. Most the Jewish population of Israel actually already lives in the coastal plain between Jaffa and Haifa. Most of Israel’s industries are located there too.
Surely, for the sake of peace, and in order that the Jews may enjoy the warm embrace of the Gentiles, severing those ancient roots and laying down those ancient claims is a really small price to pay?
And every time the Jews stop to gaze across the new border into Palestine, and remember with fondness, and perhaps even a few tears, the land to which they returned 39 years ago, with such delight and ecstasy after 20 centuries of longing and praying to be back, they will be able to console themselves that, once again, they fulfilled their calling to be “or legoyim” (a light to the gentiles) by appeasing their enemies and making unprecedented sacrifices to prove to all the world that they are – and always have been – serious about making peace.
But do you know what, Jews of Israel – and those Jews still in exile who so fervently support this way? You may think that in so acquiescing, you are setting a glowing example to the nations of the world.
But as far as these nations are concerned, the last thing they will want to do is emulate you. All you are doing is proving them right in their long-held belief that you are illegitimate, land grabbing, not-to-be-trusted Yids.And, as far as the Muslim world is concerned, your actions only confirm their view of you as a dhimmi nation, fit only to be ruled over by, and subdued under, Islam.
Thus, with the creation of that new Arab state, the Muslims will have tightened the noose around Israel’s then scrawny throat at Netanya, between Haifa and Tel Aviv. And, in their openly proclaimed and publicly published declaration of intent, this Muslim world spells out that this Palestinian state will be the most effective weapon and channel the Arabs have ever had to ensure the destruction of Israel.
If you, Jewish people, are so determined to race towards the precipice, ignoring, belittling, even shouting down the warning cries from those few who see the peril and – with all the history of Jewish-Gentile relations to fuel our fears – care enough to plead with you to halt this headlong dash towards your destruction, there is very little that we can do but cry out to your God to intervene as drastically as He may need to, to open your eyes and so save you. JNW Site Search
Right on! PING
Based on what we get for what we give, the Saudis have been a better ally than Israel.
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What the nations that do not bless Israel are going to get is cursed!
"Would you have us give Georgia back to the Five Civilized Tribes?"
The treaties were broken and the Cherokee were brutally killed, intentionally, by the Federal government.
I would assess the land that belonged to them, had the treaty been respected, look at the value of it were it to be condemned by eminent domain, and pay that amount over to the living remnants of those tribes today, not in a general trust fund which does not go to the actual individuals, but in direct individual payments. Having paid the fair market value of the land, under the appropriate law, I would consider the land claim to have been extinguished. If the modern descendants of the Five Civilized Tribes today want to go back to Georgia and buy up great swaths of it, and then seek to apply for reservation status in order to self-govern under their own laws, they would have the means to do so in that money, and I would certainly grant their request for tribal recognition.
Obviously anything that involves the American Indians and the US government is a separate case. THOSE debts are owed by THIS government, for which WE are responsible. Every penny should be paid, with no subterfuge. Other tribes, whether here on in Europe or the Middle East, who suffered wrongs under different governments in other times: this is not our responsibility. The Cherokee and Chippewa ARE, because THIS government, the government which made and broke the contracts, still exists and we are responsible for it.
A different case.
Government can take land in America. That includes Indian land. Simply retroceding Georgia to the Five Civilized Tribes would massively disrupt things. But when government takes property, it must pay fair value for it. It has not paid the Five Civilized Tribes for what was taken, wrongly (indeed, the President of the US and the Army defied the Supreme Court itself). Those treaties that were broken are nevertheless binding still on the government that made them. The tribes should be paid full value, and that is, economically and legally, giving Georgia back to the Five Civilized Tribes - at least if you let them buy up as much of it as they want and grant them tribal recognition there if they move back.
Tibikak ishkwata.
(And mgwetch for asking)
If the Saudis are the best example of a "good ally" in the Middle East you can mention, we are indeed in trouble.
The Saudis bankroll terrorists all over the world, not just in Israel. Bin Laddin mae his money in Saudi Arabia and used it to attack us.
They imposed the most radical form of Islam on an entire penninsula of Asia (Wahhabism) and they take their marching orders from the Wahhabi clerics who spew out anti-Jewish and anti-American rhetoric all over the world.
Sure, they sell us oil. They would sell us their daughters if it gave them enough money to help undermine western civlization - which is exactly what they do with our petrodollars.
The Israelis have been a source of underdercover information and a standing intimiation to the Wahhabists and their pals. Israel singlehandledly beat the entire Arab world in a war and can do it again - which is one of the reasons they want to destroy Israel. Another is because they kept whining about the territory the Israelis justly took from them when Israel was attacked, until the current and previous administrations did all they could to pander to the Phillistinians as though they were conversing with trustworthy reliable people instead of sneaking, lying , murderous, homicidal swine.
American troops who served in "Desert Storm" under Bush I and were in Arabia to protect to oil sheiks from Saddam weren't even allowed to wear crosses or stars of David.
If Saudi Arabia sunk into the ocean tomorrow, the world would be better off.
"What the nations that do not bless Israel are going to get is cursed!"
There is a difference between blessing them and kissing their rear ends.
That biblical instruction to bless them does not mean Israel is always right.
But how can you bring Major Ridge back to life?
Or give that beautiful home back to Joseph Vann?
I don't hate myself often but.........
I never hate myself for what other people did, only for what I have myself done.
And then I realize that if I am going to ask God to forgive me, and believe that He really does, that I am under the obligation to forgive myself also. Otherwise it would be pride on my part, to believe that I am better than God, such that He can forgive but I can't because my standards are higher.
Before Constantine's reign, the cross wasn't used as a symbol of Christianity. It was a Roman torture device. If a loved one were killed by hanging, we wouldn't wear a replica of the noose around our necks.
"If a loved one were killed by hanging, we wouldn't wear a replica of the noose around our necks."
No, but it's a reminder of what Messiah did for us.
The bible sure mentions it more than once.
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