Posted on 11/28/2005 5:08:30 PM PST by Esther Ruth
So, Jews, the goyim will win after all? By Stan Goodenough
November 28th, 2005
According to the newspapers here in Israel, Jews are rejoicing because the International Federation of the Red Cross and the Red Crescent Societies (IFRCRC) has finally agreed to open its doors to the Red Shield (or Star) of David, the Israeli organization that offers equivalent services to the Red Cross and Red Crescent.
Ok, so there’s a small catch: The Israelis cannot actually use their Red Star of David in this new arrangement, but must agree to a new symbol, a Red Crystal, inside which, for advertising purposes alone, they may now and then insert a small Star of David.
But hey, what’s the big deal? I mean, the Israeli organization has been fighting for decades, almost pleading, to be recognized in the same way the Muslim world’s Red Crescent Society been. And now, at last, it will be.
The fact that the Jews have to drop the symbol that represents their nation, their people, their history and their land, because the Red Cross and Red Crescent so demand it, well, that’s really a small price to pay.
There’s not much point in quibbling over a symbol, after all.
And what difference will it make if injured people are taken to hospital in an ambulance with a Red Crystal instead of a Magen David Adom emblazoned on its side?
Watching it speeding by, the Jews can be proud of the fact that once more they fulfilled their calling to be “a light to the nations” by giving in to those nations’ demands and not insisting on what is justly, and rightfully, theirs.
Also, in these very same days, the newspapers here in Israel are full of reports about Jews rejoicing for other, not dissimilar reasons. The majority of Israelis are apparently thrilled at the political revolution that is taking place before their eyes.
Finally they have a new party, a new leader, a new way to vote for. Hope is in the air, a strong leader is soon going to disengage them from the Palestinian Arabs, draw Israel’s final borders and so, at long last, win for Israel a place of recognition and acceptance, and perhaps even some praise, in the world.
Ok, so again there’s a small catch: To achieve this peace, this acceptance, the Jews cannot actually have the most important and cherished parts of their homeland. They have to let go the cradle of their nationhood, the burial places of their national patriarchs and heroes – Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Rachel, David – they have to relinquish, for all time, their claims to Hebron and Shechem and Bethel and Bethlehem; the mountains of Samaria, the Judean hills and half of Jerusalem, “the eternal capital of the Jewish people.”
But hey, for the sake of peace, this is surely a small price to pay. After all, Hebron, Shechem, the eastern part of Jerusalem – all these places have many more Arabs than Jews living in them. Most the Jewish population of Israel actually already lives in the coastal plain between Jaffa and Haifa. Most of Israel’s industries are located there too.
Surely, for the sake of peace, and in order that the Jews may enjoy the warm embrace of the Gentiles, severing those ancient roots and laying down those ancient claims is a really small price to pay?
And every time the Jews stop to gaze across the new border into Palestine, and remember with fondness, and perhaps even a few tears, the land to which they returned 39 years ago, with such delight and ecstasy after 20 centuries of longing and praying to be back, they will be able to console themselves that, once again, they fulfilled their calling to be “or legoyim” (a light to the gentiles) by appeasing their enemies and making unprecedented sacrifices to prove to all the world that they are – and always have been – serious about making peace.
But do you know what, Jews of Israel – and those Jews still in exile who so fervently support this way? You may think that in so acquiescing, you are setting a glowing example to the nations of the world.
But as far as these nations are concerned, the last thing they will want to do is emulate you. All you are doing is proving them right in their long-held belief that you are illegitimate, land grabbing, not-to-be-trusted Yids.And, as far as the Muslim world is concerned, your actions only confirm their view of you as a dhimmi nation, fit only to be ruled over by, and subdued under, Islam.
Thus, with the creation of that new Arab state, the Muslims will have tightened the noose around Israel’s then scrawny throat at Netanya, between Haifa and Tel Aviv. And, in their openly proclaimed and publicly published declaration of intent, this Muslim world spells out that this Palestinian state will be the most effective weapon and channel the Arabs have ever had to ensure the destruction of Israel.
If you, Jewish people, are so determined to race towards the precipice, ignoring, belittling, even shouting down the warning cries from those few who see the peril and – with all the history of Jewish-Gentile relations to fuel our fears – care enough to plead with you to halt this headlong dash towards your destruction, there is very little that we can do but cry out to your God to intervene as drastically as He may need to, to open your eyes and so save you. JNW Site Search
Seems recently not a day goes by when some capitulation by Israel doesn't sicken me.
Israel gives them Gaza, they give a postage stamp.
Hey, look on the bright side, I read that the cost of stamps was going up again soon.
AJC Praises Agreement of Israeli, Palestinian Relief Societies
11/28/2005 5:56:00 PM
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i don't think you will find too many fans of the red cross on this board.
As a secular state, Israel is doomed.
The only thing that made people crazy enough to actually WANT to go flooding into a desert filled with Arabs was the religious belief in Israel, in particular, as The Promised Land.
Take that away, and make the land just land where Jews just happen to live (now), and where they just want to make secular peace and prosper from mercantile activities...and you have eliminated the only real fire there ever was for inspiring anybody to bother to move there.
Israel as JUST a secular ethnic enclave of immigrant Jews is a pretty contemptible thing, really nothing more than the last European colony. If the claim for the land is not religious (in which case the claim covers those lands being given up), then the Jews have got no claim to Israel at all.
With their religion intact, Jews are noble creatures, chosen, to be a light to the nations.
But without their religion, Jews are just another contemptible, land-grasping Middle Eastern tribe.
Without their religion, they lose their respectability, and they lose any claim on folks like me to give a damn about them.
With the Jewish religion intact, Israel is a restoration.
Without a keen sense of religious duty, as a mere secular state, Israel is just a Western colony that's too expensive to bother keeping. Nobody is interesting in paying billions in aid for an ethnic Semitic amusement park surrounded by barbed wire. A waste of time and money to Gentiles.
But if Israel is the modern incarnation of Judaism as a God-worshipping religion - then it's claim is millennial and worth standing by and struggling for.
Israel as a religious dream: that needs to be watered and nutured and protected.
Israel as a secular enclave for white colonists from Europe and America with a common ethnicity? Cut it off and let it die. Semites have no claim to colonial rights any more than Anglo-Saxons do. Without their religion, Jews are nothing.
And it's a relationship with perfect symmetry for a humanitarian ambulance service.
The "Palestinians" can bomb them and the Jews can transport what's left of them away
Just my opinion.
After they've built the high fence and told the Palies and EU that they don't need them anymore......
.... does the US get to stop giving billions of dollars a year to Israel?
Just my question.
Symbols representative of the sun and the moon prevail? What's the world coming to?
Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.
I wish all Jews around the world could hear your words, but the ears of so many of my coreligionsists are closed.
G-d bless you!
Symbols representative of the sun and the moon prevail? What's the world coming to?
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We know the answer to that. Most all will turn aside and gladly worship the creation instead of the Creator as soon as they get a chance. They have in the past and we have record and evidence of what the Creator did in response. While Moses was with the Lord at Sinai they built them selves a stupid cow to worship. Noah told the people for how many years what was coming..and the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah...so now a crystal, another stupid rock!
http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=16031&intcategoryid=2
28:8 · The diagonally placed square has no particular spectrum of meaning as far as we know. It is found engraved in the cave of Marsoulas in prehistoric times, but there are no clues as to what it might have meant. The sign is the symbol for the suit of diamonds in a pack of cards. Diamonds are usually associated with courage and daring.
The British hobos made use of 
to mean here live generous people, but behave well, show them respect, and take nothing for granted. In the French hobo or gypsy sign system means here nobody lives.
In meteorology it can sometimes signify clear air and in chemistry, soft soap. It has been used in biological contexts for an individual of unknown or not stated sex.
In North America, Japan and Australia (at least) it is a road sign meaning danger ahead.
Compare with 
, one of the alchemists' signs for sulphur and also one of the signs for the asteroid Pallas.
Really? The 'Red Crystal'? Is that anything like the Red Nondenominational Nondeity of Unity? Because then like all us Euro types can get behind the non-ness of it. It's like, so un-Godly.
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