Bush Outlines Border Security Plan

FOX News ^ | 11/28/2005 | Wendell Goler, James Rosen

[Brian_Baldwin]

Bush Outlines Border Security Plan
Monday, November 28, 2005

CRAWFORD, Texas — Trying to unify a fractious Republican Party headed to midterm elections with wide differences over how to best deal with illegal immigration, President Bush was in Tucson, Ariz., on Monday to say America shouldn't have to choose between a welcoming society and a lawful one.

"Securing our border is essential to securing our homeland. And I want to thank all of those who are working around the clock to defend our border, to enforce our laws and to uphold the values of the United States of America. America is grateful to those on the front lines enforcing the border," Bush said at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in the first of two speeches on border control.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176879,00.html

[oldleft]

Allow me to outline my border security plan...

[clawrence3]

How many YEARS would such a wall take?

[clawrence3]

There are fences going up and more planned.

[Bender]

A wall doesn't do the job? Lets see, if you make it high enough, it sure as heck makes the job a whole lot tougher than the way it is now.

Curious that folks really don't want to try something that may work.

[clawrence3]

Good luck revoking the 14th Amendment there.

[Torie]

Bush has no idea how much he is damaging his reputation, his presidency, and his place in history by his grossly negligent head in the sand inaction regarding securing the border. His current proposal, comes under the heading of too little, too late. In fact, the initiative is pathetic. 1000 more border folks? Give me a break. Just last year, Bush cut back the increase to what was it, 200 or something?

[RKV]

What is obvious is that illegal immigration costs more in taxes to support the education and medical expenses of illegals (and their children) than it saves US citizens in lower food prices. Ending illegal immigration would be a net benefit to America, as well as a way to increase our security (both from potential terrorist attack and the criminal activity of Mexican [and other] citizens who work here). As an added benefit it would give us an incentive to reduce welfare benefits to encourage Americans to work. I say that as a person who has done manual labor on the family farm as recently as 4 years ago. Further, the benefits of such a policy also accrue to Mexicans. Mexico needs to implement policies which will employ their own citizens in Mexico - i.e. significantly reduce socialism and corruption [but I repeat myself].

[clawrence3]

Hi there (although I never said anything about $6 lettuce).

[cripplecreek]

Wasn't there a story posted yesterday about a construction company screwing the taxpayers by paying one employee a 6 figure salary that was really spread among about a dozen workers. It was a simple case of tax evasion all around.

[Buffettfan]

Anything short of a 30 foot high fence along both sides of our borders is just smoke and mirrors. Nothing new here.

[Bender]

How many years would a wall take? Depends on how serious you are about solving the problem.

My analysis shows it could be done in a couple of years.

Remember that we have a LOT of experience with big engineering and construction jobs.

[Jorge]

I knew it was a mistake to vote for him, but like a fool I did it anyway. God forgive me.

So you prefer Kerry as President.

[flashbunny]

no, but it's just a step away from it.

It's a lie that's been debunked countless times. Doesn't stop the FROBL from repeating it, though.

[RKV]

Have the gov pay a bounty? Worked for animal varmints in the past, could work for [human] varmints again.

[NJ_gent]

"What is also "obvious" is that Americans don't want to pay more for food and other items - you failed to address any of Bush's points about keeping the economy going"

That economy is bleeding billions of dollars per year to illegal labor. That economy is bleeding billions of dollars per year to unrecovered emergency room costs. That economy is bleeding untold amounts of money to criminal activities of illegal aliens. That economy is bleeding untold numbers of healthy legal workers butchered by criminal aliens who have no respect for law, life, or authority.

Besides, a nation preserved at the cost of all its cardinal virtues (such as law and order) is not worth the cost of preservation. - paraphrased from Ex Parte Milligan (1866)

Secure the borders or you may as well burn the damn thing to the ground now. Failing to do one of those two things merely postpones the inevitable.

[TruthShallSetYouFree]

$3.7 billion to track down illegal immigrants and hold them until they are deported

Let's do a little math. For the sake of argument, let's assume there are about 12 million illegals here. $3.7 billion would work out to just over $300 per immigrant. We could do it for less. Offer a bounty of $100 each. I could buy a new car just for turning in the landscapers, bus boys and dishwashers in my neighborhood. We could do it even cheaper if we impose fines on the employer to cover the bounty and pay for the trip home.

We have thousands of school buses that sit virtually idle in the summer. We could organize a shuttle system to take them south. We could put New Orleans' Mayor Nagin in charge. Okay, maybe not.

[Lexington Green]

Pathetic

[clawrence3]

So, what would you propose doing to the parents of a 1-month old UNITED STATES CITIZEN then?

[BlueStateDepression]

Would you have a problem amending the 14th to say clearly that Citizenship only applies to those children born here of LEGAL immigrants?