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Disgusted by Politics, Man Launches New Party (The Justice Party)
Madison.com via AP Wire ^ | November 28, 2005 | AP Staff Writer

Posted on 11/28/2005 1:39:36 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

WHITEWATER, WI (AP) - Bernie Dalsey is taking some ideas from the Democratic Party, some from the Republicans and some of his own - and he's creating his own party: the Justice Party.

The 47-year-old Whitewater resident has become so disgusted with American government and politics that he wanted to start his own party.

"I feel there's a big void," Dalsey said. "I thought, 'What the hell? Nobody else is doing it.' "

After all, some historians believe the Republican party was started in Ripon, WI in 1854.

Dalsey, a former Green and Libertarian candidate for state Assembly, has called the Federal Election Commission and the Wisconsin Elections Board to get authorization for the party name to appear on the ballots, if any candidates surface.

He set up a nonstock company to help manage funding and a Web site.

Dalsey is currently the only official party member, although he said several people he's spoken with agree with many of his stances.

Dalsey predominantly leans to the left side of the political spectrum, believing the Democrats are marginally better than the Republicans in a two-party system.

He wants to see national health care, supports abortion rights and would like to see a higher tax on the wealthy.

But he also supports gun rights, opposes same-sex marriages and wants to close America's borders to illegal immigrants.

"It doesn't make any sense to me to take everything from just the left, the right or the middle," Dalsey said of his views. "There are good ideas on the left, the right and in the middle. It's best to see what makes sense."

Some of the ideas are extreme, including closing all overseas U.S. military bases, severely limiting special-interest dollars in political campaigning and eliminating all foreign aid.

Dalsey is targeting nonvoters as those most willing to follow the Justice Party.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: convenesinmomscellar; justiceparty; thirdparty
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

So if this guy believes in the principles of collective green party communism and the individual freedom to bear arms, he must wake up every morning and feel like shooting himself.


41 posted on 11/28/2005 2:24:29 PM PST by sergeantdave (Member of the Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: Tenacious 1
"I want the government to reinstate the nasty rotten CIA powers and to keep their ugly doings in the interest of national security a secret from me."

So long as there is real and present oversight by elected officials, and so long as they stay true to their charter to not operate domestically against US citizens (we have the FBI for that, and they play by rules), then I have absolutely no problem with this.

Everything else you said I agree with completely. I just have what I consider to be a healthy distrust for my government. :-)
42 posted on 11/28/2005 2:28:25 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: bigfootbob
"in today's world when conservative votes are so precious, wasting it on a third party is retarded."

In my opinion, the only time you waste a vote is when you don't vote at all, or when you vote for a candidate who stands against that which you hold dear. There is no such thing as the perfect candidate, but I see far too much of people compromising their deeply held beliefs simply because candidate A isn't "as bad" as candidate B. I voted for George W Bush in the 2000 election, and I wrote in David A. Keene for President in 2004. You may like to claim I "wasted" my vote on a guy who couldn't have possibly won the election, but I get to wake up every day knowing that the guy I voted for wouldn't have stood for all the rotten garbage going on from day to day. The way I look at it, it's not my fault that others chose poorly.
43 posted on 11/28/2005 2:37:46 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; FOG724; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; tubebender
"Hope you don't abandon us for "The Justice Party!" ;)"

Out here in CA we have a really special place called the "Just Us" party that is made up of those who are registered "Decline to State." It's where we go when we can no longer stomach the unhappiness we find in other political parties from their constant delving the government into things it should NOT be into!!!

We also go there when the other party appuratchiks start really serving no one but themselves with their organizations in aggregious ways with our means!!!

We don't get to vote in Primary elections, but we don't care because we get to drive the pundits and pollsters nuts wondering where we're at on election day!!!

44 posted on 11/28/2005 2:44:06 PM PST by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: libertarianPA
the "Whatever I Stand For at the Moment" Party.

LOL. I think you nailed it.

45 posted on 11/28/2005 2:45:11 PM PST by My2Cents (Dead people voting is the closest the Democrats come to believing in eternal life.)
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To: bigfootbob

[I guess by your slam, you are a Pat Buchanan, David Duke style isolationist.]

David Duke was on Al Jazeera last week as a support issue for a terrorist calling on Iraqi's to "slaughter Americans."

The Sunni Cleric called David Duke a Democratic leader.


46 posted on 11/28/2005 3:23:18 PM PST by Tenacious 1 (Dems: "It can't be done" Reps. "Move, we'll find a way or make a way. It has to be done!")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

-Dalsey, a former Green and Libertarian candidate-

Ah...the worst of both worlds. Instead of "Justice", how 'bout "Just Awful"?


47 posted on 11/28/2005 3:29:09 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: William Creel
"It's called the Constitution party."

Are they against abortion (hope)?

48 posted on 11/28/2005 3:31:59 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: NJ_gent

They don't seem to understand much of what the Green Party.

yeah the whole redistribution of wealth isnt very libertarian either....or wage caps


49 posted on 11/28/2005 3:32:14 PM PST by Kewlhand`tek
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To: Tenacious 1

And I like the idea of NO foreign aid! Only by charitable contributions.


50 posted on 11/28/2005 3:34:55 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: KevinDavis
He sounds like a populist..

My thoughts exactly.

52 posted on 11/28/2005 3:46:56 PM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: jackibutterfly
"Are they (Constitution Party) against abortion (hope)?"

YES.

Check it out for yourself:

Constitution Party Platform

53 posted on 11/28/2005 3:48:48 PM PST by Godebert
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To: lastmanstanding

"BTW, no disrespect to the Cheesehead Freepers, but the Republican Party was founded in Exeter, NH by Amos Tuck."

Oooo! Them's fightin' words in these here parts! ;)


54 posted on 11/28/2005 3:55:13 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: libertarianPA

LOL! I'll see that and raise you a Lindt chocolate bar. :)


55 posted on 11/28/2005 3:56:30 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: William Creel
He sounds like some Democrats.

1] "eliminating all foreign aid" does not sound like the RATs.

2] "supports gun rights" does not sound like the RATs.

3] "opposes same-sex marriages" does not sound like the RATs.

4] "severely limiting special-interest dollars in political campaigning" does not sound like the RATs.

5] "wants to close America's borders to illegal immigrants" does not sound like the RATs.

Other stuff sounds and smells like the RATs.

The "closing all the foreign military bases" is an interesting one. It depends on where the $$$ savings goes. Does it go for more welfare--global or domestic? Or, does the cost savings go toward advanced weapon/defense R&D or other national security areas?

The one thing this person is correct in saying is that the RATs are about the same as the Republican'ts. Only the loyal fan club members would disagree with that.

56 posted on 11/28/2005 3:57:37 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: NJ_gent

No but it is your fault when your protest vote causes a liberal to be elected. I stand by my idea, change should comwe from within to be effective.


57 posted on 11/28/2005 4:05:24 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Tenacious 1

They all sound the same, lately. Pat needs to have his meds adjusted, IMHO.


59 posted on 11/28/2005 4:08:17 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: William Creel
I said some.

The RAT party is homogenous in practice. Take the Black Caucus, for example, which votes as a block. Deviating from RAT leadership makes one an outcast. There is a Joe Lieberman here and there, but for the most part, a RAT is a RAT and they all smell alike and ooze alike.

60 posted on 11/28/2005 4:13:35 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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