Posted on 11/28/2005 10:35:22 AM PST by Ben Mugged
While no congressional incumbent has yet introduced articles of impeachment or a resolution of inquiry into grounds for impeachment of Bush and Cheney, numerous 2006 candidates are committed to doing so. I know because they're contacting ImpeachPAC, a political action committee I work for which was recently created to support pro-impeachment candidates.
Today ImpeachPAC announced its first endorsement, that of Tony Trupiano, Democratic candidate for Congress in Michigan's 11th District. Tony has already been endorsed by Progressive Democrats of America (PDA) and by the Michigan Teamsters Union Joint Council 43. He'll be challenging Republican incumbent Thaddeus McCotter, a pro-Bush, pro-war, pro-wealth Republican who seems to spend much of his time on such substantive matters as "defending the Pledge of Allegiance."
~snip~ The first that Tony named was a bill to restore value to the federal minimum wage. He never got to the third, because the second issue he named received such a huge response that the conversation took a new turn. That second issue was impeachment.
"The crowd went crazy," Tony said, "I mean the crowd absolutely went nuts. Some people who are consulting for the campaign said they cringed when I said impeachment, but when they saw how the crowd reacted they breathed easier. You know, we shouldn't be afraid of impeachment. Impeachment is there for a reason. If the President has not lied to us, if he is innocent of all of these charges, give us a chance to investigate. Impeachment is a non-partisan idea. It is the way to hold the government accountable."
David Swanson is the Washington Director of ImpeachPAC.org.
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That's true. It would indeed give someone a lot of publicity. If, say, Cynthia McKinney did it, would it really cost her any support? I can't picture anyone who is still "on the fence" about her at this point who would decide that this is the final straw. (Mixed metaphor. Oh well.)
Maybe there is some party discipline at work here. Cynical me, I can't believe that EVERY house Democrat thinks that introducing articiles of impeachment would be "going too far." Something other than good judgment must be at work!
I suppose I'm being harsh, but if you accept that you've been misled by the government, you are accepting what you have been told by the democrats that are pushing this line --- that you are too ignorant to understand what's going on, so just think what we want you to think! That's their rationale, isn't it?
Being antiwar because war is terrible is one thing, being antiBush, or anti-war-on-terrorism because those on the left think you are stupid and keep telling you so is another. War is a terrible thing. There's not a single person denying that. There are no war lovers here. We are, in fact, all antiwar. But we didn't start it, and if we don't fight there, we will be fighting HERE. I guess that's not clear to the leftists.
The GOP won't lose either House. The competitive districts are much fewer than in 1994, and, with troops beginning to come home in some numbers, the air will be out of the Iraq war as an issue.
'Course, that works both ways, so the GOP had better start laying down some markers for the last two years of Bush's administration. The Democrats have NOTHING, so the field is fertile.
"If the President has not lied to us, if he is innocent of all of these charges, give us a chance to investigate. Impeachment is a non-partisan idea. It is the way to hold the government accountable."
There have been numerous investigations. None has found any evidence that the president lied.
There is no new evidence that suggests that yet another multi-million dollar investigation should be undertaken.
This idiot is trying to score political points at an extremely high cost to our country.
If there is to be yet another investigation, it should investigate if these congressmen are purposfully lying to gain political favor and try and undermine the war.
If so they should be removed from office.
I hope they do bring articles of impeachment against Bush. Let 'em trot them out for all America to see, let's continue the debate giving all the whack jobs more air time to marginalize most Americans. Then in 2008, the Dems can run another ultra-lib McGovern "peace at any cost" type for president and get utterly trounced and sent home crying.
I hope impeachment is a tool only to be used in the most extreme cases of high crimes and misdemeanors and not used for political purposes.
A lot of this current impeachment talk is just coming from a long-standing resentment for the impeachment of Clinton.
I doubt the Dems will get control of the House in '06 anyway without a lot of help from prosecutors indicting Republican congressmen.
If they impeached him over the failure in the war with Mexico they'd have a chance.
But then they'd have to do something about the borders and they want no part of that.
"is it unamerican to be antiwar.?"
I would not say it was un-American. However, the "Anti-war" crowd sees "peace" as the end-all be-all of human existence. They think a lack of warfare and "peace" are synomynous. I happen to believe that freedom and liberty are far more noble goals than simply "peace". Freedom and liberty are claimed through force of arms. "Peace" has never freed a people from tyranny, abolished slavery, or removed violent despots. To be blanketly "anti-war" is to appose freedom and liberty for those who don't have it.
Another vote to put energy available in this country out of reach and to surrender and bring our troops home from the Gulf so they can destroy our economy to bring down the country. The Democrats ought to ask Jimmy Carter if he wants to run for a 2nd term, but maybe Hillary will be Jimmy II.
And you are exactly right that should the Republicans lose the House in '06, they will impeach Bush and probably with the help of all the Republicrats like Bass, Shays, Specter, Chafee, etc. who are also tired of being out of power and want their commie buddies back in charge.
That's not what I said at all...don't add words to my thoughts...I said that if we lose the house the democrats WILL impeach President Bush...they are already planning it.
There's a pair that will beat a full house for ya!
1. The House Judiciary Committee deliberates over whether to initiate an impeachment inquiry.
2. The Judiciary Committee adopts a resolution seeking authority from the entire House of Representatives to conduct an inquiry. Before voting, the House debates and considers the resolution. Approval requires a majority vote.
3. The Judiciary Committee conducts an impeachment inquiry, possibly through public hearings. At the conclusion of the inquiry, articles of impeachment are prepared. They must be approved by a majority of the Committee.
4. The House of Representatives considers and debates the articles of impeachment. A majority vote of the entire House is required to pass each article. Once an article is approved, the President is, technically speaking, "impeached" -- that is subject to trial in the Senate.
5. The Senate holds trial on the articles of impeachment approved by the House. The Senate sits as a jury while the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presides over the trial.
6. At the conclusion of the trial, the Senate votes on whether to remove the President from office. A two-thirds vote by the Members present in the Senate is required for removal.
7. If the President is removed, the Vice-President assumes the Presidency under the chain of succession established by Amendment XXV
I could live with this. :)
Meant to BOLD that, too. I'm sure Chief Justice Roberts will be all over this like stink on a monkey, LOL!
"If we lose the House in 06....this is exactly what will happen, don't doubt it for a second!!! If we lose the Senate too, there is going to be lots of trouble..."
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER THAT THE RATS WILL TAKE THE CONGRESS- NO CHANCE! It is a waste of time to discuss it. Any such time is better spent working on figuring out how to take more of their seats.
If being ignorant enough to not understand what the President says makes HIM guilty of something, what would that be? Failure to talk down enough???
That has nothing to do with what i wrote. Why dont you read what i wrote before you respond or just dont do it at all.
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