Posted on 11/28/2005 6:54:46 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
Intelligent design already the planned subject of a controversial Kansas University seminar this spring will make its way into a second KU classroom in the fall, this time labeled as a pseudoscience.
In addition to intelligent design, the class Archaeological Myths and Realities will cover such topics as UFOs, crop circles, extrasensory perception and the ancient pyramids.
John Hoopes, associate professor of anthropology, said the course focused on critical thinking and taught how to differentiate science and pseudoscience. Intelligent design belongs in the second category, he said, because it cannot be tested and proven false.
I think this is very important for students to be articulate about they need to be able to define and recognize pseudoscience, Hoopes said.
News of the new class provided fresh fuel to conservatives already angered that KU planned to offer a religious studies class this spring on intelligent design as mythology.
The two areas that KU is trying to box this issue into are completely inappropriate, said Brian Sandefur, a mechanical engineer in Lawrence who has been a vocal proponent of intelligent design.
Intelligent design is the idea that life is too complex to have evolved without a designer, presumably a god or other supernatural being. That concept is at the heart of Kansas new public school science standards greatly ridiculed by the mainstream science community but lauded by religious conservatives that critique the theory of evolution.
Hoopes said his class would be a version of another course, titled Fantastic Archaeology, which he helped develop as a graduate student at Harvard University.
The course will look at the myths people have created to explain mysterious occurrences, such as crop circles, which some speculate were caused by extraterrestrials.
The course will explore how myth can be created to negative effects, as in the case of the myth of the moundbuilders. In early American history, some people believed the earthen mounds found primarily in the area of the Ohio and Mississippi river valleys were the works of an ancient civilization destroyed by American Indians. The myth contributed to the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which relocated American Indians east of the Mississippi to lands in the west, Hoopes said.
It was that popular explanation that then became a cause for genocide, Hoopes said.
That example shows the need to identify pseudoscience, he said.
What Im trying to do is deal with pseudoscience regardless of where its coming from, he said.
But Sandefur said intelligent design was rooted in chemistry and molecular biology, not religion, and it should be discussed in science courses.
The way KU is addressing it I think is completely inadequate, he said.
Hoopes said he hoped his class stirs controversy. He said students liked to discuss topics that are current and relevant to their lives.
Controversy makes people think, he said. The more controversy, the stronger the course is.
Does anyone else share this view, or are you plowing a brand new furrow in the field of ID?
"I am unsurprised to find that censored books are popular.
And I am unsurprised to find that you have an idiosyncratic definition of censorship as well.
Clown parade placemarker.
You're right. It's the will of the people behind ID. It was the evil liberal courts that gave evo its foothold. :)
Sometime do some search histories on these freaks that come to FR only to issue their Darwin Altar Calls. Come to Darwin, Just As I Am, And I'll Keep Piling On the Evo Spam...
You can go back months and months, and maybe find a handful of posts except their obsession with evolution and all the folks who Won't Believe.
Sometimes I wonder if they're all the same person--
Read it long time ago. So?
He was talking about scientific revolutions, not CS or ID. Neither has any science.
I guarantee you, we're not all the same person.
Creationists are not only anti science, but when you pin them down, many are openly anti-reason. This isn't good for conservatism.
As I've said before, I am one creationist/ID'er who has no problem with science or evolution. I don't believe in evolution per se, but I can't deny that at least some of it is true.
Since my belief is more faith-based than anything, I can't get into a scientific argument about it. I can respect yours and others' beliefs while still keeping my own.
I agree that when we become anti-reason, then that becomes dangerous. It's why I like to take a low-key, objective, and honest approach to things and maybe learn something in the process from others like yourself.
And as a Christian, I am more concerned with how well I am doing in THIS life and the future, not some ancient ancestory, whomever that was.
Saying that though, I love to see these debates. They are too dang entertaining and too addictive.
Speaking of obsessions, isn't there an astronaut thread going somewhere that you should be attending to?
astronaut thread going somewhere
Where where????
What's really Icky is when they join up in a thread to snarl about fellow FR posters and high-five their group-grope wittiness. eeew. "They're so stupid. Aren't they stupid, Beevis? Yeah, Darwinhead, heheheh, they're just really...stupid. And ignorant."
But if you've got a thread for the Fanboys, show me.
The current races are most certainly not subspecies. You have just demonstrated that you have zero knowledge of biology. Variation within races is greater than variation between races, which means they're not subspecies.
Humans ourselves are the last surviving subspecies of the species Homo sapiens -- which also at one point included Archaic Homo sapiens, Homo sapiens idaltu , Homo heidelbergensis, Neandertals, and, quite possibly, H. erectus/ergaster.
It's as if he's a four old with his fingers stuck in his ears declaring, "No Mommy, I don't hear you!"
Like you, I often check the histories of these Johnny-one-note posters. Some of them are quite humorous.
"Welcome to FR, Bedfellow. How come you're so new and you know my habits?"
You're not that difficult to figure out.
We have nothing to argue about.
Yeah, and I'll bet you play New Age.
It's a vast diabolical conspiracy. While we're distracting you online with FR, our minions are poisoning the minds of your children.
ID is thousands of years old and thus far is batting zero.
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