Posted on 11/27/2005 8:28:54 PM PST by Icelander
Not really. But feel free to come out of the closet. No one will care.
You and Dane out to get married.
Probably your wet dream but hate to dash your hopes. Not happening.
This guys is the type of leader our country needs, though-and-through.
" Tancredo also recalls that Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge was giving a briefing and was asked why he had not used the military to help defend and protect the borders. Ridge responded, "There are political and cultural reasons why we can't do that." "Not acceptable!" said Tancredo, "I want an explanation of these cultural and historical reasons why we can't protect our nation's borders."
You guys having fun holding hands?
And we're pointing out there IS a link just as strong between Reagan and Buchanan. I realize you're not trashing Tancredo over working with Bay, but some people are. That is pure hypocrisy on their part. I bet none of the Tancredo bashers here declined to support Reagan because HE was being funded by Bay Buchanan. "Do as I say, not as I do" seems to be their slogan.
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After buchanan got into a power struggle with a young staffer by the name of Peggy Noonan President Reagan "promoted" him to a windowless office with no staff or duties. He took the hint and finally resigned.
Gee, Is PAT Buchanan on Tom Tancredo's payroll? No. BAY Buchanan is assisting Tom, with Pat's support.
BAY Buchanan also assisted Ronald Reagan, with Pat's support.
Why is it okay when Reagan uses Bay to raise $$$, but bad when Tom does it? Did I miss something here? The "link" to Buchanan (via his sister Bay) was no different with Reagan than it was for Tom.
As for using pat and bay's mailing list, I'm sure it is free and comes with no strings attached...sure.
Sop if Tom personally hires PAT Buchanan and then gives him a windowless office to "demote" him, then will it be acceptable to vote for Tom?
I guess you forget how buchanan said he wasn't going to campaign in closely contested states...then turned around and did exactly that. He spent his money running anti-Bush ads in closely fought states...not campaigning for himself, or to stop Gore...but against Governor Bush.
Hey, and he didn't even charge Gore for that help.
Yes, Bay is Pat Buchanan's (much younger) sister. Ed Thompson, the Libertarian candidate for Wisconsin brother, is Tommy Thompson's brother. He even looks just like Tommy. But guess what? Alot of people who supported Ed did NOT support Tommy and vice versa.
I know in your fantasyworld, everyone who supports Tom Tancredo is a loyal Pitchforker, but I have NEVER been for PAT Buchanan and his neoconfederate, Isreal-bashing agenda. Check my posting history in 2000. I am delighted Buchanan crashed and burned with under 1% of the vote after he hijacked the DEFORMED party nomination. No principled conservative would join a centrist, pro-abortion party AFTER complaining the GOP was too centrist and not pro-life enough. I'm total agreement with you about Buchanan's laughable 2000 campaign. Perhaps the only difference is I remember Buchanan's "big" issue in 2000 wasn't even immigration, it was "America First" (a.k.a. trades and tariffs). His book on immigration came out POST-2000.
Tom Tancredo is a long-time, ELECTED Republican official who is everything Pat Buchanan isn't. He was promoted by Reagan, NOT demoted. He has an perfect track record of WINNING campaigns since 1976 (total number of campaigns won by Pat: 0) He is strongly pro-Isreal and against the Islamofascist threat, he is running to represent ALL of America -- not pander to voters in the deep south, he is much stronger on taxes that Pat ever was, and has said over and over he will be seeking the GOP nomination, not trying to hijack some other organization that doesn't share any of his values.
He has ONE thing in common with Pat Buchanan: a similar outlook on immigration. So maybe Pat's sister is helping Tom on immigration with Pat's blessing. Maybe Pat will donate to Tom's campaign because he likes Tom views on that issue. Hell, maybe Pat will even campaign for Tom. That doesn't make Tom Tancredo a "sock puppet" for Buchanan anymore than Bush is a clone of Condi Rice and her pro-abortion views because they HAPPEN to agree on foriegn policy so Condi worked closely with Bush to get him elected.
I can support Bush for President while opposing Condi for the job, and I can support Tancredo for the job while opposing Buchanan's Deformed Party campaign.
But going by your "guilt by association" rules, has your hero Harry Browne informed you which open-borders Libertarian candidate to vote for against Tancredo? I mean Libertarians = Open borders , tancredo-haters, Freepers who trash Tancredo = open borders, tancredo-haters. I sense a connection. You voted for Browne, right?
Yes, my original comments, and responses, were to clarify comments you made about pat buchanan. I see you finally realized that and in only a few hours.
In regards to it bay selling her services to tancredo you're absolutely corrent. She is the one who manages "pat's" donor mailing lists and was his co-profiteer in the last election. If you believe that tancredo is getting her assistance freely, and that pat is not involved, then you...well, that's pretty well evident.
If these clowns really believed that the money would be squandered, then they definitely wouldn't be trying to warn people away from donating. They'd be happy to see their efforts wasted.
LOL! Hardly. People who will give their money to tancredo are the same ones who would give it to any other fringe candidate so there's nothing to worry about. Regarding bay, she wasn't President Reagan's campaign manager; she was just a bean counter.
She did manage her brother two campaigns, and while they were political disasters they did turn out to be financial wind falls which was probably the intended purpose anyway. bay and pat, along with other siblings of the buchanan family, made a killing of his last campaign.
The really humorous thing about all of this is bay and pat will end up getting a percentage of every dollar donated to tancredo.
Bay Buchanan was treasurer of Ronald Reagan's presidential campaigns in 1976 and 1980, so I assume "bean counter" is your cutesy term for treasurer. Bay was also appointed Treasurer of the United States by President Reagan in 1981.
Billyboy:
Here is a link to Pat Buchanan's column written in 2004 in which he endorses George Bush for president in 2004:
http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover.html.
I disagree with Pat Buchanan's position on Israel and his position on how to address the present situation in Iraq. Cong. Tancredo is a strong supporter of Israel, unlike Pat Buchanan. Also, Cong. Tancredo supports the position of the president with regard to Iraq.
Arnoldpalmerfan
I also do not trust him to not run as a third-party candidate if he does not get the nomination. He's far too cozy with the Buchanans and they are only in it for the Buchanans.
Buchanan found Bush more offensive than Gore. I find that offensive. I have no use for those who are not team players and I fear Tancredo is no team player.
I hope he runs like heck for the nomination but when that's over, if he's not the nominee, he gets behind the Republican nominee and tries again.
Read the original article, it clearly states in there that that's one of the things Tancredo has set out to do.
It's fairly clear to a lot of us that you did just come here to crap on the thread. Your 'oversight' is just more evidence.
I'm saying fight like heck for Tancredo if that's who you want in the primary process. I'm from Iowa and have quite a bit of power in determining our next nominee and I do not have a horse in this race, yet. It won't be Tancredo. It will be a conservative. But I will be supporting the Republican nominee in the general election.
I was a Forbes supporter at the caucus. I was not crazy about Bush but by golly, when it was over, Bush was far superior to Gore.
That's what I'm saying. After the primary process is over, we coalesce around our nominee.
We ended up with RINO Ganske running against Harkin. I couldn't stand Ganske but he was better than Harkin so I held my nose and voted for him.
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