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Bush visit [Tucson] highlights GOP rifts on border
The Arizona Daily Star ^ | 11.27.2005 | Mitch Tobin

Posted on 11/27/2005 6:17:30 AM PST by Borax Queen

Guest-worker plan to top Monday agenda

Hoping to straddle a fracture in the Republican Party, President Bush is due in Tucson on Monday to promote his border and immigration policies.

The 2:40 p.m. speech at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base is the president's only scheduled stop here.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff are expected to appear with the president at D-M.

With the backing of businesses who need foreign employees, Bush is pushing a guest-worker program that would let undocumented workers obtain three-year work visas. Workers could extend that for another three years, but would then have to return to their home countries for a year to apply for a new work permit.

"Our Border Patrol and immigration agents are doing a fine job, but we still have a problem," Bush said in his Oct. 22 radio address.

"If an employer has a job that no American is willing to take, we need to find a way to fill that demand by matching willing employers with willing workers from foreign countries on a temporary and legal basis."

The proposal has alienated many conservative Republicans who feel it gives amnesty to people who have entered the country illegally.

There are an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.

Competing guest-worker proposals have been introduced in Congress, which is expected to take up the contentious issue early next year:

- Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., support legislation that would allow illegal border crossers to work in the United States for up to six years.

- Sens. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and John Cornyn, R-Texas, are backing a plan that would force undocumented workers to first return to their home country to apply for a guest worker permit.

- Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., wants to grant legal status to undocumented workers who have paid taxes and lived in the United States for five years if they pass security checks, pay a $2,000 fine and demonstrate English proficiency.

Rank-and-file Republicans may be less divided on the immigration issue than GOP politicians in Washington, D.C.

An October poll of 807 likely Republican voters found 72 percent supported a plan with increased border security, tougher penalties on employers who hire illegal workers and a temporary worker program in which applicants could gain citizenship if they live crime-free, learn English and pay taxes. GOP pollster Ed Goeas conducted the national survey.

Bush signed a spending bill for Homeland Security last month that includes funding for 1,000 new Border Patrol agents and a 10 percent increase in the holding capacity of detention facilities for border crossers.

Earlier this month, Chertoff unveiled Homeland Security's Secure Border Initiative, which will add 100 deportation officers, 250 criminal investigators and 400 immigration enforcement agents to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The initiative also seeks to eliminate the department's policy of releasing border crossers with a promise to appear in court. Most of these entrants never show up for hearings under the so-called "catch and release" policy.

Tune in to see Bush on TV

-Tucsonans who want to see President Bush during his visit to town Monday will have to turn on their televisions.

Bush's speech at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base will not be open to the public.

"He's not leaving the base, so nothing will be affected as far as road closures," said Officer Lisa Peasley, a Tucson Police Department spokeswoman.

KVOA-TV Channel 4 and KGUN-TV Channel 9 plan to carry Bush's 2:40 p.m. speech live.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; border; bush; gop; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; impeachthemall; issues; openborders; politics; presidentbush; willingemployers; willingworkers
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To: dufekin

well if the DNC has certified the truth - if I were you I would get a second opinion. Only the lazy are desperate and it appears the democrats have most of them.

Lighten up - see truth!


141 posted on 11/27/2005 2:32:09 PM PST by TNoldman (911 took away my tolerance!)
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To: bitt

What do you have against donuts? If you don't like them don't eat them but don't keep others from the freedom to have donuts.


142 posted on 11/27/2005 2:34:54 PM PST by TNoldman (911 took away my tolerance!)
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To: bitt

What do you have against donuts? If you don't like them don't eat them but don't keep others from the freedom to have donuts.


143 posted on 11/27/2005 2:34:58 PM PST by TNoldman (911 took away my tolerance!)
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To: Borax Queen
NoseHornimus Maximus visits Tucson..
with HeeHaw Republicanos..
for a Donkey Rodeo.. to Sound BITE America in the Assets..
144 posted on 11/27/2005 3:15:48 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: AgThorn
Who exactly are these businesses and what are the jobs that 'need' foreign employees?

That's easy- these are the businesses that pay off a corrupt political class.

145 posted on 11/27/2005 4:42:06 PM PST by Pelham
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To: sangoo
"If an employer has a job that no American is willing to take..."

That phrase is Clintonian.

146 posted on 11/27/2005 4:44:32 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Dane

How's the illegal alien situation doing in Pennsylvania, Dane?
Do you still have more Open Border cheerleaders than illegals in your State?


147 posted on 11/27/2005 4:47:38 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Dane
Which raises the cost of the product or service.

At least you have finally offered an excuse for your support of illegal immigration. Fencing stolen goods also provides cheaper costs- maybe supporting property crime can be the next big idea for the Open Border Lobby if you get your wish and the "guest worker" amnesty passes.

148 posted on 11/27/2005 4:51:48 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Borax Queen; Dane

Dane has posted that he/she lives in Pennsylvania, and once dined at a Taco Bell. It's interest in border issues appears to be motivated by RNC cheerleading. Dane is a great humanitarian, and will willingly sacrifice your neighborhood if it furthers the RNC's ethnic pandering.


149 posted on 11/27/2005 4:58:00 PM PST by Pelham
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To: Dane
Which raises the cost of the product or service. I'll never understand your alls hatred at small businesses that produce good products and services. It's almost akin to the animus liberal democrats have toward business.

You're so full of crap. No one here has any hatred of small businesses that produce good products and services. What we have is anger at business who break the law and engage in unfair business practices. We hate businesses whose unfair business practices and lawbreaking may result it larger profits for the business owner, and rarely lower prices to the consumer, that end up passing the costs on to the taxpayer and those who live in communities which are inundated by criminal invaders. And most of our hatred lies in those who aid and abet these lawbreaking invaders in coming across our borders and staying here - people like you who enable and defend the criminal invaders while pretending to be a conservative or a Republican.

150 posted on 11/27/2005 5:02:42 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: sangoo
I want cheap labor too. Why do you think jobs are going elsewhere?? You can have cheap labor here or cheap labor there, you decide everyday you buy something.

Pray for W and Our Troops

151 posted on 11/27/2005 5:05:31 PM PST by bray (Free Libby)
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To: raybbr

Have to admit it Dane. You have more oral traction than anyone else here!!!


152 posted on 11/27/2005 5:18:05 PM PST by Sterco
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To: Pelham
...interest in border issues appears to be motivated by RNC cheerleading.

A-ha, thank you for explaining.

153 posted on 11/27/2005 5:20:35 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: staytrue
Problem is welfare and social security taxes have so distorted the market price that the market does not work very well.

Welfare and social security taxes have become so distorted because of rampant abuse of both. Has nothing to do with "the market price" or the market as a whole.

154 posted on 11/27/2005 5:21:59 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: mmercier
Based on reading the first 100 replies here I see this issue tearing the GOP to pieces.

I see it differently. The ones tearing the GOP apart aren't even card carrying members of the GOP.

155 posted on 11/27/2005 5:24:54 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: raybbr; Borax Queen

A president who can only show his face on a military base in the reddest of red states is in deep trouble.


156 posted on 11/27/2005 5:29:11 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Dane
Isn't having a govt. mandated ceiling on the supply of labor, a market manipulation, that you abhor.

There is a govt. mandated ceiling. It's called national borders. It's called citizenship.

157 posted on 11/27/2005 5:31:20 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: taxed2death; Dane

Precisely.

A business that cannot be profitable operating within the law should not exist.


158 posted on 11/27/2005 5:32:46 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: Sterco
Have to admit it Dane. You have more oral traction than anyone else here!!!

Was this meant for me or dane?

160 posted on 11/27/2005 7:36:52 PM PST by raybbr
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