Posted on 11/26/2005 1:02:20 PM PST by Past Your Eyes
Meet Deborah Davis. She's a 50 year-old mother of four who lives and works in Denver, Colorado. Her kids are all grown-up: her middle son is a soldier fighting in Iraq. She leads an ordinary, middle class life. You probably never would have heard of Deb Davis if it weren't for her belief in the U.S. Constitution.
This is not America. When honest, law-abiding citizens can't commute to work on a city bus without a demand for their 'papers', something is very, very wrong.
One morning in late September 2005, Deb was riding the public bus to work. She was minding her own business, reading a book and planning for work, when a security guard got on this public bus and demanded that every passenger show their ID. Deb, having done nothing wrong, declined. The guard called in federal cops, and she was arrested and charged with federal criminal misdemeanors after refusing to show ID on demand.
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Well this should prove interesting.
4th Amendment.
No probable cause.
Harrassment.
Its an "anti-vagrancy" law.
It is expected to actually become more widespread as a possible law enforcement tool against illegal immigration nationwide.
BOYCOT DENVER
Most states have laws on the books that an ID must
be presented if an officer of the law requests an
ID from that individual. Failure to do so, carries
a penalty. No state, of which I am aware, allows its
citizens to not present an ID if one is requested
by a law enforcement official.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.
Again someone please correct me, if I am incorrect.
And I believe Most state have laws should be changed
to All states have laws.
But again someone please correct me, if I am incorrect.
There is a big, big, BIG difference between an officer of the law and a security guard, that is where this is wrong. It says that it was a security guard, which means a private security guard on public transportation. He has no jurisdiction on that bus, and in fact, not many places at all, much less enough to demand an ID from people.
ah, but some states recognize security personnel
as officers of the law. Colorado may be such a
state...... though I don't know.....
What raised my suspicion was the link to the web
site.
Appalling. This is how they control their subjects in totalitarian states. Is this where we're going?
There has to be more to this story...
We're already gone.
I saw that.. I want to see both sides of the story before I make a rash judgement...
You have to remember that the ACLU also backed Rush in the doctor shopping deal.
They're not to be trusted, I know I don't have to mention that here...
check out Brown v. Texas for ID on demand. Absent reasonable suspicion, local cops can't demand id. Don't know about fed rent-a-cops.
Antivagrancy laws have been declared unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in a case from the late 60s or early 70s, a case arising from Jacksonville, Fla. They are incapable of defining the criminal act: ''wandering aimlessly from place to place without any visable means of support,'' or, 'asking passers-by for money,'' and so on.
This is not America.
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