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70 years later, 'secret lovers' still wed (HE WAS 19, SHE WAS 14...IN 1935)
The Associated Press - KING5 website (you need to register) ^ | 11/24/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/24/2005 5:56:02 PM PST by paulat

70 years later, 'secret lovers' still wed

BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- When 19-year-old Ron Ramey fell in love with 14-year-old Marcella, doubters said it would never last - they were just too far apart in age. But the young couple didn't listen, spiriting from Nezperce to New Meadows to get married in secret. On Saturday, the Rameys will celebrate their 70th wedding anniversary.

He's 90 and she's 85, both in good health. And the romance that began so long ago is far from losing its luster.

"I still love him so much," Marcella told The Idaho Statesman. "When we go to bed at night, we always hold hands. 'I love you' are the last words we say to each other."

Their wedding anniversary has fallen on Thanksgiving seven times since their wedding in 1935.

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"We're thankful to have had all these years together," Ron said. "We had no idea that it would last this long."

When they started dating, he worked at a meat market for a dollar a day, and she worked at a drug store for 10 cents an hour. One of Ron's duties was delivering ice, and Marcella would leave the icebox open - letting the precious ice melt - so he'd have to come by more often.

He proposed in a letter, and Marcella's response was simple.

"I wrote back and said, 'Yes, yes, yes,'" she said. "We had a friend drive us to New Meadows to get married so it wouldn't be in the paper in Nezperce. We didn't want anyone to know because I was so young. My folks were really put out when they found out, but in those days, people wanted kids to leave home because money was so scarce. It was one less mouth to feed."

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The newlyweds moved in with Ron's father and stepmother in Grangeville, where Ron worked as a dishwasher and part-time cook. Eventually, Marcella's aunt offered her a job at a bakery in Emmett, and the couple moved.

By then, they had their first child, a boy they named Marsh. The place where they lived in Emmett was so small that the kitchen, bed and shower were all in one room.

"I worked nights and slept days," Ron said. "When the baby cried, I could reach out and rock him without getting out of bed."

"He made $15 a week," Marcella added. "We never went anywhere because we couldn't afford it. The grocer let us charge $5 a week, and he'd throw in a box of candy. That was the only treat we ever got.

Water was drawn from a pump, which often froze in the winter. The weather would turn so cold that the nails on the inside of the house would be covered in frost, and without money for blankets the Rameys stuffed newspaper in the bed for insulation.

After three years in Emmett, they moved to Boise, with Marcella little more than a teenager.

"Mom made me clothes from hand-me-downs that had come from my aunt's," their daughter, Kay Gaskell, said. "And those were clothes they'd received from their cousins."

Though Gaskell often had to put cardboard in the soles of her shoes because of holes, she never felt poor, she said.

"We had the love of our parents, and they made a beautiful, loving home for us," she said.

For all but those first 14 years of her life, Marcella said, they've never been apart. Now they live in Boise, close to their children.

"People don't say 'Ron and Marcella.' They say 'Ron-Marcella' because we're always together," she said. "Sometimes I worry about which one of us will go first. I tell him he's not going anywhere without me."

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Information from: The Idaho Statesman, http://www.idahostatesman.com


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To: Popman
Duh, guess I should have read pass the first line. Must be "turkey fatigue" LOL

You are forgiven...I am far into stuffing stupor myself....

41 posted on 11/24/2005 7:01:28 PM PST by paulat
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To: Island Girl

Ohmigosh~that is great!! LOL


42 posted on 11/24/2005 7:03:00 PM PST by MTMS
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To: LaineyDee
Let me draw you a picture. It starts like this:

Chickensoup wrote:

I think that they should be able to marry and work from the age of 14 on.

To which I replied:

And how would you feel if these 14-year-old girls decide to "work" in the porn industry, hmmm?

To which you asked this stupid question:

What in the world does that have to do with getting married young?

Look at the top of this post for your answer. And next time, read the damned message you're replying to.

43 posted on 11/24/2005 7:04:07 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Prime Choice

happy thanksgiving...now chill


44 posted on 11/24/2005 7:05:27 PM PST by MTMS
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To: MTMS
happy thanksgiving...

You too!

now chill

Sorry...asinine questions bug me.

45 posted on 11/24/2005 7:06:58 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Prime Choice

okay...that explains it :)


46 posted on 11/24/2005 7:08:02 PM PST by MTMS
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To: Prime Choice
Sorry...asinine questions bug me.

Your comment about the porn industry seems to be totally unrelated to anything on this thread, so I'm not sure where you get off calling other people's questions asinine, but carry on....

47 posted on 11/24/2005 7:11:52 PM PST by Amelia
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To: MTMS
okay...that explains it :)

You do have a point, however. I should ratchet it down a bit. I just get really annoyed when people post messages that children (actual children...under the age of 18) should be accorded the same rights and responsibilities as an over-18 adult. These days, especially with the way things are going, that sort of thing all but guarantees child exploitation. And yeah, it gets me incredibly short-fused.

48 posted on 11/24/2005 7:12:29 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Amelia
Go back and look at the message to which I replied. Then get back to me.

Go ahead. Do it. I'll wait.

49 posted on 11/24/2005 7:12:56 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: twinzmommy

I was 17 and he was 23, we have been married 48 years in Dec.


50 posted on 11/24/2005 7:14:14 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Prime Choice
Nice red herring. Answer the damned question or shut up.

Ouch, did I hit a nerve? I always appreciate a civilized response.

How does your idea of a 14-year-old working as a porn star pertain to the story of a young couple working hard all their lives and being happy together for 70 years (hopefully more)? Oh, yes. It doesn't.

There are already 14-15 year olds working both legally and illegally. Altering a working age to 14 would not have any bearing on the legal restrictions imposed on adult-oriented businesses. That age is still 18/21 for the most-part.

The previous post simply stated that a 14-year-old should be able to work if they so desire. Obviously there will be parental/guardian issues to address. That goes without saying.

I didn't add the red herring. I just baited it further (rather successfully, I might add).
51 posted on 11/24/2005 7:15:26 PM PST by csconerd (awaiting the fallout of having an opinion)
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To: Amelia
Since you're so enlightened, perhaps you could inform me on how to take the meaning of Message #2 on this thread.

Go ahead. Tell me what you think someone means when they say that 14-year-old kids should be able to marry and work. You tell me what that would lead to.

Asinine indeed.

52 posted on 11/24/2005 7:16:10 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: Prime Choice

I'm so seriously confused PC . . . I don't really see *WHY* you brought porn into it in the first place.

I see what you're saying . . . but in most states people can work at 16, but the porn industry still requires 18 (or is it 21?) . . . so what does the age of being able to work have to do with it?

I'm not trying to ask stupid questions, just clarification. So apologies if you see my question as stupid, but my daddy always told me there were no stupid questions.


53 posted on 11/24/2005 7:17:55 PM PST by twinzmommy
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To: csconerd
Please look at message #2 on this thread. That is the message to which I replied with my "work in the porn industry" remark.

You seem to ignore that simple and incredibly salient fact.

I wonder why.

54 posted on 11/24/2005 7:18:15 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: twinzmommy

See message #2 on the thread.


55 posted on 11/24/2005 7:18:32 PM PST by Prime Choice (Mechanical Engineers build weapons. Civil Engineers build targets.)
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To: paulat
In this stupid age when we call 19-year-olds "children." Back then...they had to be ready to cope with life.

It's because our kids have been raised without all the responsibilities our parents and grandparents had when they were teenagers. Even we didn't have those kinds of responsibilities when we were younger. The Depression and World War II were defining moments in the lives of our grandparents and parents, and they were forced to grow up fast.

There is no comparison between the maturity of a 19 yr old from 1920 and one today.

56 posted on 11/24/2005 7:19:17 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Prime Choice

I did! Chicken Soup said NOTHING about porn. . just working at 14.

Working at 14 doesn't have anything to do with the porn industry. The right to work age is 15 or 16. . .the legality of working in porn is 18 or 21. Read *my* post doll.

Happy Turkey Day :)


57 posted on 11/24/2005 7:19:38 PM PST by twinzmommy
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To: SwatTeam
...and 19-year-olds are guarding my freedom today....

They did it in the 40s 50s 60s 70s and were preparing themselves in the 80s and 90s for the 2000s!

Give yourselves a pat on the back!

Are they not the greatest?

Thanks a million boys and girls!

58 posted on 11/24/2005 7:21:27 PM PST by VOYAGER (M<)
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To: Prime Choice
I don't see why having 14 year olds marry and work would necessarily lead to them working in the porn industry. Why there rather than somewhere else? I don't understand your reasoning.

There are already 14 and 15 year olds having children without the benefit of marriage, and some teenagers would be more productive if they were working for a living than they are at school.

59 posted on 11/24/2005 7:23:10 PM PST by Amelia
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To: Prime Choice

I was going to say something but I decided that letting you continue to run on at the mouth would be funnier.


60 posted on 11/24/2005 7:23:30 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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