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1 posted on 11/22/2005 5:56:30 PM PST by ianschwartz
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To: ianschwartz

It's not the same thing at all.

There IS no other way to spell democrat without putting in the Rat.

CNN most definitely did NOT need to put an X in front the vice president's face. Repeatedly.


2 posted on 11/22/2005 5:57:33 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: ianschwartz
My understanding is the the X flashed over the Vice President's face during a speech.

The "rats" clip you are referring to was during the word "bureaucrats" scrolling across the screen.

Totally different. Do some friggin' research before posting a thread... Jeez.

3 posted on 11/22/2005 5:59:31 PM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: ianschwartz

Can we get Drudge to quit with the popups so that someone will listen to him again?


4 posted on 11/22/2005 6:00:27 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Leapfrog)
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To: ianschwartz

Aren't they proud to be called "rats"?


6 posted on 11/22/2005 6:01:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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Yeah, similar situation except in every possible way.

8 posted on 11/22/2005 6:03:07 PM PST by I see my hands (Until this civil war heats up.. Have a nice day.)
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CNN is no stranger to technical malfunctions. From October 6, 2000 MRC: Gore got the bigger "half" of CNN’s split-screen:

CNN awarded Vice President Al Gore six percent more of the TV screen when both he and George W. Bush were shown on a split-screen during Tuesday night’s debate, the New York Post’s Richard Johnson revealed. The other networks, he added, split their screens into equal halves.

In an October 6 story noted by MRC Communications Director Liz Swasey, "Gore’s the Winner Any Way TV Ted Slices It," Johnson disclosed that Republicans "suspect CNN’s manipulation of the pooled camera feeds was done to help Gore." Here’s an excerpt from Johnson’s story:

Brian Propp, a former TV-station engineer who watched the debate on CNN International, noticed the inequity.

"Its impact was to give Gore a more commanding presence on the screen, and Bush a visually reduced impact," Propp said in an e-mail to Bush headquarters after he measured each side of the split screen with graph paper.

The split-screen scandal comes after The New York Times attacked the Republicans in a front-page story for showing the word "rats" for a fraction of a second in a health-care ad slamming bureaucrats.

"They were all upset about a tenth of a second of a subliminal ‘rats,’ but they have no problem with 90 minutes of George W. Bush being diminished," one Republican scoffed.

END Excerpt

To read the entire story, go to http://nypostonline.com/news/12429.htm

Last night and today the Fox News Channel has been illustrating the difference in screen size by showing a still shot from CNN’s debate coverage.

-PJ
9 posted on 11/22/2005 6:03:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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Not quite the same....one was a political ad/commercial

The other was a news (supposedly) program. Hardly the same!

10 posted on 11/22/2005 6:03:47 PM PST by irish guard
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Whoops I meant to copy/paste the title from the website .. sorry all.

It was about exposing the hypocrisy on the part of CNN. My apologies.


11 posted on 11/22/2005 6:03:56 PM PST by ianschwartz
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Here's the CNN story re the 'Rats ad:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/12/bush.ad/

12 posted on 11/22/2005 6:05:37 PM PST by NewMediaFan (Fake but accurate)
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CNN news is the same as a paid political ad, right?


14 posted on 11/22/2005 6:07:03 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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No way is it the same. The rats thing was picking at style and making a stupid accusation. The X is a layered effect. One was intentional, the other was supposedly an accident. I plan on grilling my husband about the specifics whenever I get a chance. He would know whether the accident claim is valid or not. But I know enough to say that it is not the same thing as the rats case at all. There was nothing subliminal. RATS was the end of the word democrats. Though I must that the Dems for pointing it out to me. I've switched from Dems to 'rats ever since.


15 posted on 11/22/2005 6:08:44 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past ("The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone)
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It doesn't appear to be a glitch to me. I looked at that still photo and there appears to be small print under the 'X', also in black, but it's hard to make out because it's up against the black background of their news banner banner where it says "CHENEY: I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS WRONG TO CRITICIZE"


18 posted on 11/22/2005 6:14:36 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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RE: The same as "Rats"?

An "X" crossing out a person's name or image has more of a connotation similar to the NBC "Snipers wanted" crawl that appeared beneath candidate George Bush's picture, IMO.

19 posted on 11/22/2005 6:14:50 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Move over Henny Youngman.. please! "The most trusted news source." CNN)
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If you want to see a real and deliberate use of subliminal images in an election ad, check this out:

http://www.freedominion.ca/grig/attack.htm


20 posted on 11/22/2005 6:15:18 PM PST by Grig
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Except that the RATS excerpt dominated the news cycle for about a week with the RATS & MSM calling for apologies and investigations.


23 posted on 11/22/2005 6:21:57 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: ianschwartz

They should be considered an ex-News organization after this.


28 posted on 11/22/2005 6:37:38 PM PST by kcar (Alita! Alita! Alita! Alita!)
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CNN wasted no time to attack the Bush campaign after they "concluded" the word 'RATS' was flashed intentionally and maliciously:

The difference is this: the Republican Party is a political organization, and cannot, by definition, be impartial when it comes to the Democrats. CNN is a news organization, and must, by moral imperative, be impartial when it comes to the President.

31 posted on 11/22/2005 6:43:24 PM PST by Physicist
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When the Dems complained about what they thought was a reference to "RATS", they were being delusional. I swear, they are so thin-skinned, they search for things to pick fights over.


32 posted on 11/22/2005 6:50:39 PM PST by popdonnelly
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MoveOn.Org is planning some heart warming Thanksgiving ads

The following is a description of the adds in response to the Republicans response to the John Murtha remarks. The MoveOn.Org ads are scheduled to air nationally from Nov. 24 through Nov. 30.

The MoveOn.Org ad begins with a family at their Thanksgiving dinner table, bowing their heads in prayer. An announcer says "Some folks won't be home this holiday season" and the video cuts to a shot of soldiers in Iraq with mess kits. The ad then shows a photo of President Bush and Vice President Cheney and the announcer saying "Their president misled America to send them in and has no plan to get them out," and "Where are the Republicans?"

33 posted on 11/22/2005 7:02:25 PM PST by R_Kangel ("Those who follow wise men shall become wise, ......those who follow fools shall be destroyed !!!")
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CNN has deigned to offer a rare explanation and apology. Just a technical glitch here. Moo along, little doggies.


43 posted on 11/22/2005 7:55:22 PM PST by kcar (Alita! Alita! Alita! Alita!)
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