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US airbase in Uzbekistan closed
India Defence ^ | 11/21/2005 | UNI

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:35:39 PM PST by Dyaus Pitar

Moscow: The US airbase at Khanabad in Uzbekistan was closed after the last US warplane left the airbase, ending four years of the facility.

A US embassy official in Tashkent, the Uzbek capital, confirmed the airbase's closure, adding that the last US warplane left the base at 1540 hrs local time yesterday. A US colonel presented a certificate of appreciation and a US flag to an Uzbek official, Russian news agencies reported quoting the Uzbek Defence Ministry's press service.

The Khanabad airbase was set up in 2001 to support the US-led coalition forces in Afghanistan. More than 1,500 US soldiers were stationed at the base.

Uzbekistan had asked the US to withdraw its military contingent from Khanabad, in July, in the wake of the Andizhan riots.

(Excerpt) Read more at india-defence.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airbase; centralasia; geopolitics; russia; usa; uzbekistan
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1 posted on 11/21/2005 7:35:40 PM PST by Dyaus Pitar
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To: Dyaus Pitar

Not a good thing. That base allowed projection into all of Central Asia... China, Iran, Russia.

I suppose India is proving a good enough ally, and of course Iraq too. Maybe it was unnecessary.


2 posted on 11/21/2005 7:38:47 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("I was born a Democrat. I expect I'll be a Democrat the day I leave this earth." -Zell Miller '04)
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To: Dyaus Pitar

Unfortunate. It was the good Putin who let us use it earlier, and more recently it was the increasingly unfriendly Putin who kicked us out.


3 posted on 11/21/2005 7:39:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dyaus Pitar

The "drinky girls" are in tears.


4 posted on 11/21/2005 7:40:43 PM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("So far, so good. But this is only phase 1."--Captain America)
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To: Dyaus Pitar

Uzbekistan has been quite the abuser of the civil rights of it's people. It may have been handy, but it's probably for the better that we're not in bed with such a corrupt government....no more looking the other way.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 7:40:52 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: SteveMcKing

I always see that Uzbekistan was a temporary base. The US is actually having a freer hand now that you don't need to get "political goodwill" from Islam Karimov so that you can plot a freer course of action.


6 posted on 11/21/2005 7:43:18 PM PST by NZerFromHK (Alberta independentists to Canada (read: Ontario and Quebec): One hundred years is long enough)
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To: Dyaus Pitar

Well, at least we had it for four years.


7 posted on 11/21/2005 7:44:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Cicero
Unfortunate. It was the good Putin who let us use it earlier, and more recently it was the increasingly unfriendly Putin who kicked us out.

I don't think it's much about Putin. Mr. Islam Karimov is prez of Uzbek; the guy's a real fruitcake -- has written his own scriptures and everything (to make up for gaps in the Bible and the kornran); and he makes all the schoolkids memorize it. Yeah. This article says the legislature called for our exit, anyway.

8 posted on 11/21/2005 7:46:49 PM PST by Migraine
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To: Dyaus Pitar
U.S. base closure a new stage in Uzbek-Russian relations - Kosachyov

MOSCOW. Nov 21 (Interfax) - State Duma international affairs committee chairman Konstantin Kosachyov said that the closure of the U.S. Khanabad air base may prompt Uzbekistan to join certain CIS organizations.

"A new phase in relations between Uzbekistan and Russia, which may prompt Uzbekistan to enter certain integration structures on post-Soviet soil is one of the results of the closure of the American military base in Khanabad," Kosachyov told Interfax on Monday.

The deputy said he expects the base's withdrawal to help "Uzbekistan get rid of the illusion that closer ties with the U.S. could help resolve internal problems."

It is clear that the United States proved unready to "ignore what they view as inappropriate steps by Uzbek President Islam Karimov's regime with regard to the country's population. But they might have initially planned to use their military presence to influence him," he said.

Uzbekistan did not choose to sacrifice its own sovereignty "either to support the interests of the world anti-terrorist coalition or earn money for its own needs," Kosachyov said.

9 posted on 11/21/2005 7:51:14 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: highlander_UW
>>>but it's probably for the better that we're not in bed with such a corrupt government....no more looking the other way. <<<

What namby pamby pablum. We should be in bed with any government that serves out national interest. Our presence the Uzbekistan was useful in the past, and could well be useful in the future.

You act as if Uzbek being corrupt will corrupt us...I prefer to think contact with the US military will civilize the Uzbeks.

It's happening in Iraq......don't know where your coming from?

10 posted on 11/21/2005 7:55:26 PM PST by HardStarboard (Read Stephen Hayes "Spooked White House" - Weekly Standard. It explains a an awful lot.)
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I agree with Highlander. I think the powers that be in Washington made a cold calculation - that Uzbekistan's gov't is tottering and doomed to failure in the mid-term. This way, when a poputlar uprising sweeps those dregs away, Putin (who's stepping into the vacuum) is going to look bad and we're going to be invited back in by a popular government.


11 posted on 11/21/2005 7:58:03 PM PST by happyathome
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To: Cicero
That was a temporary base only, and Putin helped us secure it, and other bases in the region. He also provided us tanks, supplies and troops to man the tanks for the Northern Alliance. There are other bases. You are only seeing 5% of the GWOT at most, and Russia is working closely with us.
12 posted on 11/21/2005 8:28:45 PM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: HardStarboard

"I prefer to think that contact with the U.S. military will civilize the Uzbeks".

I could not agree more. Islam Karimov is a dictator. The Karshi-Khanabad airbase was a window on the West for the thousands of Uzbeks who worked there. When I was there I knew many who were grateful for the U.S.-provided income, if nothing else, and something else about us must have rubbed off as well. No Uzbek I spoke to admired Karimov and they felt free to say so while we were there and thought U.S. forces would be there for quite some time, as did I.

It could have been a beautiful friendship but for our own stupid arrogant U.S. State Department. We had Karimov eating out of our hand until this year. Yes, he's an SOB but for a while he was our SOB. FU, Jimmy Carter!


13 posted on 11/21/2005 8:29:17 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: HardStarboard
You act as if Uzbek being corrupt will corrupt us...I prefer to think contact with the US military will civilize the Uzbeks.

I'm not suggesting that Karimov's corruption will rub off on the US, but the dirt from it might. It seems likely that he might fall fairly soon and it wouldn't do to be too closely associated with yet another tin pot dictator when we're in the middle of trying to spread democracy throughout the world. Hard to be a good example when we have the filth of dictators about us...plus, we have other bases in the area, so we could afford to lose this one. Maybe after he falls we can connect up with the people of Uzbekistan again.

15 posted on 11/21/2005 9:26:39 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Dyaus Pitar

A US colonel presented a certificate of appreciation ...

Suitable for framing I presume.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 9:37:35 PM PST by lp boonie (Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
We continue being told Putin is our good 'friend'. Uzbekistan is yet another example of Putin's "friendship".


17 posted on 11/21/2005 9:58:29 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: M. Espinola
We continue being told Putin is our good 'friend'. Uzbekistan is yet another example of Putin's "friendship".

The agreement Bush made with Putin the fall of 2001 to use the base in Uzbekistan was that it would be very temporary. It was used as a staging base to launch the raid on Afghanistan. Logistics demanded this base, and Bush agreed that we would not be there for an extended amount of time.

In return for working to stop arms shipments out of Georgia, and for the short stay in Uzbekistan, we got intelligence from the Russians, and access to the Northern Alliance.

Point being, Putin played a key role in our overthrowing of the Taliban.

18 posted on 11/21/2005 10:11:06 PM PST by GOPyouth (De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
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To: Dyaus Pitar; Tailgunner Joe
We still have the base in Manas, Kyrgyzstan.


19 posted on 11/22/2005 5:16:21 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: highlander_UW

We are in bed with some other corrupt governments and looking the other way. Big deal.


20 posted on 11/22/2005 5:46:48 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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