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Prosecutors Say Pa. Girl Wasn't Kidnapped
Associated Press ^ | Monday, November 21, 2005 | MARK SCOLFORO

Posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:43 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow

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To: Peace4EarthNow
I bet she'll just plead guilty of running after and joining him after the murder took place and that she wasn't even in the same room as he when the triggers were pulled.

I believe that because of her age, she wasn't interrogated. Now she's probably lawyered up. She'll deny everything, including any "pre-planning", no matter what the guy says. She'll plead guilty only to leaving the scene of a crime and any lesser charges they throw at her.

Otherwise, she'll be mute as a rock.

Leni

61 posted on 11/21/2005 5:26:25 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: decal

THat didn't help, but honestly--it wouldn't matter. What did Carol Fugate look like?

She could have looked like any number of things. One of the reasons these things are shocking is because of how the ones you don't suspect (and from her activities, youth group, etc one would not immediately suspect this.)

Wonder if something of the 'bad boy' thing appealed to her.


62 posted on 11/21/2005 5:36:30 PM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Hattie

They just had a movie about the killings on cable yesterday.


63 posted on 11/21/2005 5:37:16 PM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: dead
I understood you and snickered, so your humor wasn't completely in vain.

I guess dry/black humor isn't as popular as I thought. Too bad, I prefer to think that its the highest order of humor. ;)

64 posted on 11/21/2005 5:39:30 PM PST by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: Peace4EarthNow

IM's re another girl Ludwig was wrapping things up with as he was involved with Kara ---

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1525842/posts






65 posted on 11/21/2005 5:47:12 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: dead

"OK, raise your hand if you didn’t make any silly boneheaded decisions when you were fourteen."

We waited until we were 18, and then I married him. But I didn't have him execute my parents in the process, though they were ready to shoot ME, that's for sure. After six years, I got tired of raising him, and I split.

Kara's life is over for all intents and purposes. Her siblings are going to turn on her like rabid dogs if it's proven she was in on the slayings. And they probably will too, even if not.


66 posted on 11/21/2005 5:48:07 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: tinamina

His statement to police was that he couldn't find her after the murders and was driving off when Kara came running down the road and jumped in his car and announced she wanted to get as far away as possible, get married and "start a new life."


67 posted on 11/21/2005 5:49:09 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: laney
IF she was 14 and lived in the era of BEAVER CLEAVER it would be shocking but kids see so much violence and killing today it is like what beating someone up was 25 years ago, so it's easy for a 14 yr old in 2005 to be totally mixed up on what she did without a grasp of the repercussions.

For starters this is not what I referred to when I posted. Sure, kids can get mixed up in things without grasping repercussions. That's not what happened here.

This girl ran off with the guy who KILLED HER PARENTS. Where's the grief? Where's the outrage? Where's the anger? Where's the loyalty and at least some sign of love for her parents?

Never mind the repercussions of running away with a killer. What about the people who raised you? You leave them to lay bleeding?

This girl is as close to evil as one can get without being just that. That's a strong word and it is also the truth. No one with a pin head of good in them would do what she did.

It's a dangerous thing to be as cold as she is.

I would have not believed that anyone could do this at 14, much less do it myself. In my household Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver were violently divorced when I was 11. My mother threatened to kill herself in front of me more times than I can count. Both parents married others again, no less than 7 times. Brother ran away etc. etc. etc.

Not exactly the Cleaver household.

You still couldn't compare me to her to say the least.

68 posted on 11/21/2005 5:49:52 PM PST by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: dead

We were just talking about this on another thread...I am now 60, but I can still remember all the mistakes I made when I was 14...I was a bratty, silly girl who wanted her way all the time...and I was crazy over boys, especially the 'bad' boys...my parents sure had a time with me...my dad was always hauling me into the house, and telling me in no uncertain terms, why such and such as boy was not welcome in our house, and not welcome to date me....oh, I carried on so, I am sure...but my dad was strict, and I knew deep down in my heart, he had only my best interests in mind...and I am so grateful for him...I could apologize for my bad behavior, he would dole out my punishment, eventually all was forgiven, and we went on with life...

Kara, on the other hand, cannot ask her parents for their forgiveness...its going to be a difficult burden for her to bear, when she grows up a bit, ,and realizes what happened..


69 posted on 11/21/2005 5:53:33 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: traderrob6

Where was her lawyer?


70 posted on 11/21/2005 5:53:59 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Logophile

That she left willingly does not preclude the possibility that she was afraid to refuse to accompany him.


71 posted on 11/21/2005 5:55:49 PM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: dead
There's silly bonehead....

..and then there's cold blooded murder.

I think it's safe to say that most of us, if not all....haven't done the latter.

No comparison.

72 posted on 11/21/2005 5:56:13 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: dead
uh no....we just thought you were 'silly' for saying 'silly bonehead'...

..hence, our answers :^)

73 posted on 11/21/2005 5:57:54 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: dead

You must be having quite the giggle as you read the responses to your post..you know...the ones who didn't realize just how sarcastic you were being!!


74 posted on 11/21/2005 5:58:19 PM PST by Hildy
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To: MizSterious
What do you want to bet, though, that she can turn on the tears at will--and will most certainly do so at trial.


----Thats what I was thinking. Lets just hope the bleeding hearts who will think up one excuse after another for her behavior will not get their wish and she gets a slap on the wrist. IMHO she is old enough to know this was a heinous act and she should be charged as an adult. I know when my daughter was 14, she damn well knew better.
75 posted on 11/21/2005 6:00:17 PM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: dead

I made some really, really bad decisions in my life, although even a girl like me from the big, bad, big apple waited until I was 16 before I really got rolling on stupidity, but luckily none of them involved killing anyone, esp. not my parents.


76 posted on 11/21/2005 6:03:55 PM PST by jocon307
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To: dead

He had a gun and had just shot her parents. Presumably he would have shot her and her siblings as well. The fact that she left willingly can't be held against her. And yes, she's fourteen and as dumb as they come at that age. She has to live with what she's done, her stupidity, rebelliousness, lack of sense. But she didn't shoot her parents.


77 posted on 11/21/2005 6:04:27 PM PST by hershey
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To: luvbach1
That she left willingly does not preclude the possibility that she was afraid to refuse to accompany him.

Perhaps so. Since we have only news reports to go on, it is difficult to know exactly what happened.

78 posted on 11/21/2005 6:13:39 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Dr. Scarpetta
Kara's life is over for all intents and purposes. Her siblings are going to turn on her like rabid dogs if it's proven she was in on the slayings. And they probably will too, even if not.


79 posted on 11/21/2005 6:18:06 PM PST by LucyT
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To: lady lawyer

Do we know anything about David's parents? I haven't seen them in the news.


80 posted on 11/21/2005 6:18:46 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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