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1 posted on 11/19/2005 12:11:08 PM PST by smoothsailing
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2 posted on 11/19/2005 12:16:55 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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murtha : Pay attention

You have been hanging around to long with cut and run hanoi kerry

The Brothers and Sisters on The Wall know what you have done.

And before you complain about me, I was there also.

DISMISSED!


There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

And the FBI has proof of his treason.

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS

904. ART. 104. AIDING THE ENEMY

Any person who--

(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or

(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or [protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly; shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.


3 posted on 11/19/2005 12:21:53 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of FReepers who preach and howl : Get over it Tonk. Move On! mmmm Move On as in Fat Boy?)
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To: smoothsailing

Isn't it great that Murtha lives in a nation where you can vote against yourself. Let's hear it for the current King of Flip-Flop!


5 posted on 11/19/2005 12:26:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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One wonders what Murtha thought of the former President, Clinton?


8 posted on 11/19/2005 12:30:24 PM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: smoothsailing
Think murtha can fit in a suit like this?


12 posted on 11/19/2005 12:34:24 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of FReepers who preach and howl : Get over it Tonk. Move On! mmmm Move On as in Fat Boy?)
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To: smoothsailing
Good rebutal. One thing that constantly gets lost in the dicsusion of GWB's service is he served in the Texas ANG as a fighter intercept pilot, who could be called up for active duty in NAM at any time.
It is on the record that in 2004 when the Blather forgery came out a pilot that flew with GWB under LTC Killian's command in the 111th FIS at Ellington AFB, had publically made a statement that GWB had volunteered to go to NAM, but he and some others where turned down, simply because their interept training in the then fastly becoming F-102's they trained in where not being deployed for action.

I submit that as usual many elements are not drilled into peoples minds of the facts that should often be pressed to exonerate an individual.
This crap about GWB not serving is simply ridiculus. Any day he took off over the gulf coast he could have had to bail out due to a flame out, and perhaps not be recovered alive.
As for Murtha, it is sad. Being a Marine who served his country in combat to have to end on such a note. I strongly suspect to many ill adviced white wristed creeps have got hold of him, and have dimmed his once sharp mind as he served in Intel/Counter Intel with our Marine Corps. I'll stand at attention and salute him for his service with the Marine Corps., and feel sorry for his present condition.

15 posted on 11/19/2005 12:39:04 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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Representative Murtha should be told that military service does not equate to sound leadership in all things, nor should military leadership be viewed as a sole qualification for policy creation, either.

Yeah, imagine. I'm always amazed at how many Americans seem content to have the politicians running the military in times of war as if even a remote number have all the details to make the tactical and strategic decisions and even if they did that they'd know what the hell to do with the info. The Congress should just shut their pie holes and let the military do what it does.

18 posted on 11/19/2005 12:40:42 PM PST by Fruitbat
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Whoops.......should have read..........
simply because their interept training in the then fastly becoming obsolete F-102's they trained in where not being deployed for action.
20 posted on 11/19/2005 12:43:56 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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But, the whole claim that one should never discuss matters military unless they have served in the military themselves is the worst red-herring, most spurious straw-man argument......

Last month was the 200th anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar when Horatio Nelson used the unorthodox tactic of breaking the enemy's line of battle instead of following the entrenched "line ahead" tactics that the Royal Navy had used religiously for over a century but was by then outmoded and which had contributed greatly to the British defeat at Chesapeake Bay.

Nelson was not the first to use that new tactic. It was first used in the British victory at the Battle of the Saints in 1782 by Admiral Rodney.

Rodney, however, did not invent the tactic. The tactic was first proposed to British naval circles in January, 1780 by a certain John Clerk of Eldin, Scotland, a civilian who had never heard a shot fired in anger, had never even been to sea and who had worked out his naval tactical theories based solely on his readings, sailing a small boat in protected waters and working out his naval tactics with tabletop ship models.

23 posted on 11/19/2005 12:53:07 PM PST by Polybius
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Thanks for posting this. It put into words the discomfort I have been feeling whenever anyone suggests that only those who have actually been to war should make war policy.

susie


25 posted on 11/19/2005 12:57:11 PM PST by brytlea (I'm not a conspiracty theorist....really.)
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There is something else that I never hear mentioned when talking about Cheney. His resume makes him INFINITELY more qualified to discuss matters military than does Murtha's resume make him qualified.
32 posted on 11/19/2005 1:21:21 PM PST by stevem
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Murtha is either senile, or Pelosi and the Dem leadership made some big promises to get him to speak out like this. Either way, his conduct is despicable and reprehensible and a stain on his previous service.


36 posted on 11/19/2005 1:35:03 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: smoothsailing

Some people's idea of bravery is to call someone else a chickenhawk.


49 posted on 11/19/2005 2:12:06 PM PST by popdonnelly
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God forbid a man as vain and self-promoting as General George A. Custer would have become president in 1776 as he planned to do.

George A. Custer 1839-1876

Now just how did Custer plan to do this since he died 100 years after 1776?

56 posted on 11/19/2005 5:46:05 PM PST by Rudder
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I think the entire Murtha episode shows how naive, inept and desperate the Dems have become. They apparently chose Murtha to make the pull-out statement confident that his decorations made him immune to criticism.
Murtha might be any number of things, including stupid. I think he was talked in to taking one for the party since he probably won't run again. If this is true where are his values?


59 posted on 11/19/2005 6:23:02 PM PST by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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