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1 posted on 11/19/2005 6:19:29 AM PST by LS
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"These comments will get out, despite the MSM. The new media will get them out; campaign ads will get them out, and if I were the GOP, right now I would assemble an ad with sound bites of these Dems' treasonous comments and start running them immediately! THE CAMPAIGN STARTS TODAY"

You are absolutely correct! EXCEPT, we have many, many spineless pubs and RINOS! Saying that, doesn't take away the HUGE opportunity the House has given our party! So instead of pleading with the cowardly senate pubs, let's go directly to the RNC headquarters and DEMAND they start buying some air time and show clips from last night! IT'S TIME TO PLAY HARDBALL, and I want my donation to be used for AD'S that will completely DESTROY our enemies, instead of it going to any RINO or wimpy pub!! We need to start an email and phone campaign to FORCE the RNC to go with OUR wishes!! IT'S OUR MONEY ANY WAY!
31 posted on 11/19/2005 6:40:30 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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I hope we can continue to truly "change the landscape" rather than stand back and admire a few red, white 'n' blue flowering bulbs that will die with the frost. This kind of thing needs to be done unremittingly and ruthlessly until these fools are crushed - and their childrens' children unto the seventh generation or something like that. No quarter should be given to the enemies in our midst.


33 posted on 11/19/2005 6:42:11 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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We called these POS's out on the floor and they flinched. Its amazing when the GOP fights back.


34 posted on 11/19/2005 6:42:59 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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Does anyone know the names of those on both sides who voted "Present" or "No Vote"?

They are the most cowardly of all, and should be run out of the House.

37 posted on 11/19/2005 6:45:43 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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Don't forget the a$$kicking five minute talk by Repu blican Trent stating that there is no turning back from fighting the rephensible and evil ideology of the islamists who want to annihilate the Western world.


41 posted on 11/19/2005 6:50:09 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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Superb piece!


45 posted on 11/19/2005 6:52:44 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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Love your take on this. It adds a lot to my, much simpler, take--"we forced them to go on record, and when push came to shove, they didn't have the 'nads to put their votes where their big, overactive mouths were."


47 posted on 11/19/2005 6:53:34 AM PST by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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As I said last night, the leadership's move was a huge morale boost for the GOP in Congress. It put the Dems in their place. It reasserted GOP dominance in the House and gave our troops a huge vote of confidence.

If they could only do something like this in the Senate.

48 posted on 11/19/2005 6:54:39 AM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator


49 posted on 11/19/2005 6:56:18 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Credit my friend, Rep. Ron Lewis of Kentucky, with one of the key lines of the night: "How do you withdraw from a war on terror?" This needs to be repeated over and over and over. America must be re-introduced to the fact that the terrorists declared war on us, not the other way around, and that we must finish it. There IS no withdrawal from this war - only victory or defeat.


50 posted on 11/19/2005 6:56:20 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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......but they have the Dems fully on the run.....

The Rat EJ Dione had a column this morning "Support for the war in Iraq is rapidly eroding"

I wonder if running it today was an editorial joke by the publisher.


51 posted on 11/19/2005 6:56:45 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . (FR = a lotta talk, but little action))
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Before Congressman Billybob jumps in with what I know will be an astute analysis, I'll get my two cents in on last night's vote. I consider it to be potentially a landscape-altering vote...My take on this is that if correctly played, last night's vote possibly could cost the Dems up to 30 seats in the House in 2006. This could very well be as significant as the vote in 1900 "for" continuing to fight the Filipino Insurrection and to keep McKinley in the White House. You heard it here first. We'll see if Frist and the Senate have the same cajones or political insight that the House members have.

Thanks, for "your" astute analysis...and Congressman Billybob's comments/"What If the French Had Pulled a 'Murtha' in 1781?".

54 posted on 11/19/2005 6:59:03 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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Good post.


57 posted on 11/19/2005 7:00:42 AM PST by BunnySlippers
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Billy Bob gets tiresome.


59 posted on 11/19/2005 7:01:45 AM PST by cynicom
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The "Who's Who" list of anti-Americans in the House that are screwing up America. None Dare Call It Treason.

Jose Serrano of New York, Robert Wexler of Florida and Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, Jim McDermott of Washington; Jerrold Nadler, Maurice Hinchey and Major Owens of New York; Michael Capuano of Massachusetts and William Lacy Clay of Missouri.


63 posted on 11/19/2005 7:05:01 AM PST by TUX (Domino effect)
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...last night's vote possibly could cost the Dems up to 30 seats in the House in 2006.

Possible with an informed electorate... unfortunately, we're not blessed with that. And while the House sported 'big ones' last night, the Senate's were still in a state of ascension. I heard 'Edith Bunker-Collins' say yesterday that she STILL hasn't made up her mind on Alito.

Unless the party... and the administration builds on the momentum we gained this week, the House vote will be meaningless. The Rino's have gotten the MSM's full-attention... and they like it.

64 posted on 11/19/2005 7:07:24 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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IF the media covered what happened last night, at all or with any accuracy at least...YES they would likely lose seats. But it happening on the weekend and the convenient memory and priorities of our beloved media, it will be buried under "Rove's possible indictment" and "Bush defending the war overseas" and all the rest.


66 posted on 11/19/2005 7:10:43 AM PST by BonnieJ
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What an excellent thread and you made some really great points that needed to be made.
Many of us were really upset with Kurt Weldon going south on us and you are absolutely right about the msm trying to bury this vote.
My guess is it will be hardly mentioned anywhere. If this story has a life you will hear it on talk radio, the internet and of course a few papers that get it like the Wash. Times and a few others.
As for fox and friends, more weekend programming debacles, plus FNC has been going more and more msm lately.It's probably about selling out for money(more sponsors with a a more liberal attitude in broadcasting-- selling out) but they should remember who brought them to the ball. They could wind up dancing alone.
67 posted on 11/19/2005 7:12:58 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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Pay no attention to what the MSM says about this vote...

I find the media hypocrisy amusing; if the Democrats had managed to get a few more votes -- even one Republican one -- I think that this vote would have been trumpeted from the skies.

I believe that the ridiculous Fitzgerald soap opera garnered much coverage for very little substance, and I believe that the MSM reaction to a just few more 'yes' votes in this case would have been on the level of the resignation of Nixon. Instead, since it didn't go their way, the MSM are downplaying the historic vote last evening. I checked news.google.com, and on the page generated for the news coverage this event, none of the headlines use the word "overwhelmingly", though the word does appear in a handful of the first lines of the stories. Instead, the headlines are predictably slanted to the left, downplaying the defeat of the Democrats:

Pullout debate takes nasty turn

White House plays chicken with a war hero

Call for Troops' Removal Reverberates at Home

House Erupts in War Debate

Democratic hawk blasts Bush over Iraq, urges pullout

Uproar in House as Parties Clash on Iraq Pullout (from the New York Times, which in this story doesn't even mention the overwhelming nature of the vote total until paragraph 6, and then goes trying to write excuses for it.)

I did find one headline for an opinion piece that was notably not defeatist: Cut and run in Iraq isn’t a real policy, but most of the rest ranged from left to way out into loony left territory.

Why we cannot even have semblance of objective journalism from the MSM is beyond me; their sales are dropping rapidly, hurting their ad revenues, and the editors are deluding themselves if they think it is just demographics. I think it is the content with its overwhelming left-wing bias that is driving many people away.

69 posted on 11/19/2005 7:14:50 AM PST by snowsislander
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Bookmarked and bttt...
..and I get a two-fer

Yours and Congressman Billybob's :))

Sure glad you fellas are on our side!

73 posted on 11/19/2005 7:18:54 AM PST by Guenevere
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