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House rejects troop pullout; Dems decry vote (Rep. Ford yells repub's making uncalled for attacks)
AP ^ | November 19, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2005 12:50:54 AM PST by Former Military Chick

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Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, however, said the resolution vote was not a stunt. "This is not an attack on an individual. This is a legitimate question."

'nough said!!

1 posted on 11/19/2005 12:50:55 AM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Of course if you were a Dim elected officeholder, stuck between Moveon.org and actual American public, you too would resent any move to make you declare your views on ANY ISSUE.


2 posted on 11/19/2005 1:02:18 AM PST by JLS
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To: Former Military Chick
Murtha, a 73-year-old Marine veteran decorated for combat service in Vietnam,

I don't know this guy from Adam's house cat, and he may be a fine individual, however, John FnKerry is a decorated Vietnam war veteran, also.

3 posted on 11/19/2005 1:02:43 AM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Former Military Chick

The Republicans HAD to bring this whole "war debate" to a head. The rats have been mounting a very effective campaign to use the war as a way to divert attention from the news they don't want America to hear - - terrific news about the economy.

It is critical to remember that the Democrat Party thrives on a bad economy - - what they want more than anything else is an economic recession in which people lose their jobs, their homes, and their savings. This is when the Democrats have the most success selling their vision of a Euro-style, secular-socialist welfare state. This is when they see their best chance of getting elected.

Their problem, their nightmare, has been that the economy is roaring - - the stock market is climbing, unemployment is virtually non-existant, and even oil prices are plummeting (I got my gas today at $2.09!). This is the worst possible news for the Democrats. All their best soundbites ("How will people afford to heat their homes this winter?", for example) are becoming obsolete.

And so, the Democrats have been left only with their old dependable fallback position of silently hoping like crazy for more and more filled U.S. military body-bags to provide them with the political fodder they needed to use against Bush and the Republicans - - until tonight.

With tonight's vote, the Democrats' harping about the war will ring hollow. Now the focus can turn back to the good economic news, as well as the tremendous progress that has actually been made in Iraq and in the war on global terrorism.

Tonight's vote was a tremendous poltical victory for the Republicans and for America. And the night was capped by the surprise live broadcast of President George W. Bush rallying the troops and the nation.

(P.S. Are the Democrats some very sick animals, or what??)


4 posted on 11/19/2005 1:32:58 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: cowboyway

Yeah, I'm a little quizzical about this, too. I mean, Vietnam? The guy's only about five years younger than my WWII dad. How did Murtha miss Korea? I am willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, but I would be interested in a little more info about exactly what he did in Vietnam. I thought I heard that he had a couple of Purple Hearts?


5 posted on 11/19/2005 1:39:10 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
Harold Ford was one of the few Democrats who were considered sane, but now even Ford is coming unglued

He's seeing his Presidential aspirations slowly go down the drain. Now he's on record opposing immediate withdrawal from Iraq, putting him at odds with the moonbat base of the Democrat party. So what does he do now -- wink, wink, nudge, nudge to the base? Or defend his vote on future Tim Russet-a-thons?

7 posted on 11/19/2005 1:54:52 AM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Republicam)
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To: Cincinatus

Forget about his presidential aspirations, he's watching his Senatorial aspirations circle the drain.


8 posted on 11/19/2005 2:08:31 AM PST by Steve_Stifler
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To: Cincinatus

No, he can simply say he supported the pullout before he opposed it.


9 posted on 11/19/2005 2:10:53 AM PST by Ethan_Allen1777
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"the GOP leadership pushed the issue to a vote over the protest of Democrats."

Goodness! Democrats protesting a vote...on which they voted in near unanimity.

10 posted on 11/19/2005 2:13:46 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"The House voted 403-3 to reject a nonbinding resolution calling for an immediate troop withdrawal.
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It was the second time in less than a week that President Bush's Iraq policy stirred heated debate in Congress."

403 to 3 is a "heated debate?!"

BWA HA HA!

11 posted on 11/19/2005 2:15:57 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"Harold Ford was one of the few Democrats who were considered sane, but now even Ford is coming unglued."

Some of us here in Tennessee know the Fords very well, and Ford has "posed" as whatever he "needed" to be to move up. He's nothing but a puppet of his daddy, coming from a chronically corrupt and ethically vacant radical leftist family. As for Murtha, a Watergate baby (as was Junior's daddy), he's finally demonstrated his true stripes as a traitor.

12 posted on 11/19/2005 2:34:46 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg

Don't assume anything good about Ford. Like Al Gore, he is from a political family, and I believe will shape everything he does around what will further his career. Just remember that Congressman Gore was pro-life, fiscal conservative, and NRA rated "A".

The thing I find interesting in all this is that if you say to a democrat, "You are wrong," they start this "personal attack" accusation. That is obviously in their playbook. I never heard anyone accuse Murtha of being anything but wrong. The worst thing that was said about him was that the administration was perplexed that he had adopted the same position as Michael Moore. This is simply a statement of fact. He did adopt this position, and it is very inconsistent with his past actions.


13 posted on 11/19/2005 2:36:27 AM PST by TN4Liberty (American... conservative... southern.... It doesn't get any better than this.)
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To: Cincinatus

There's already a $hitstorm brewing in Memphis, as Junior's Aunt just stole a State Senate seat by a dozen votes in a heavily uber-Rat district and may be overturned by our GOP State Senate shortly. His own base of power is crumbling and the State 'Rats may be quite ready to yank the carpet out from underneath his feet for next year's US Senate race nomination. Personally, I want to see him get the nomination so we can utterly destroy him statewide.


14 posted on 11/19/2005 2:38:31 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: Former Military Chick
The House voted 403-3 to reject a nonbinding resolution calling for an immediate troop withdrawal.

Good – called their bluff. With all the rhetoric about pulling out, few wanted to go on record as wishing to raise the French Flag.
15 posted on 11/19/2005 2:44:24 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: JLS

Hehehehehehehe....can't say it better. :-)

Great move finally by Hastert and Blunt!

When will FRIST develop such backbone?

I am waiting for some hint that Frist is the majority leader.


16 posted on 11/19/2005 2:46:33 AM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Southack

Well, don't look for logic in DeamonRATS positions.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 2:47:56 AM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Southack

Exactly. What the media really means is that it sparked heated screams in the halls of congress from the Dummy heads, but resulted in a tame common sense vote at the end.

Shame on the Lo$er DEMs and the media.


18 posted on 11/19/2005 2:53:58 AM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Former Military Chick
"This is a personal attack on one of the best members, one of the most respected members of this House, and it is outrageous," said Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass."

I'm sure the Democrats would say that they have not personally attacked President Bush.

We've known it all along: when you call the Democrats' bluff, they scream "Personal Attack! Personal Attack! You guys aren't playing fair! Sob, sob, sob!"

19 posted on 11/19/2005 2:54:51 AM PST by Night Hides Not (1 John 3:18 (my interpretation: Deeds, Not Words"))
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To: cowboyway

Murtha has certainly turned to the "dark side". There must be something in the Washington water. Certainly being a DemonRat doesn't help one's sanity - as Rush says: "Still voting Democrat - your stuck on stupid".

However, Murtha's early military career is not questionable. From an earlier post:
>>"He learned about military service from the bottom up, beginning as a raw recruit when he left Washington and Jefferson College in 1952 to join the Marines out of a growing sense of obligation to his country during the Korean War. There he earned the American Spirit Honor Medal, awarded to fewer than one in 10,000 recruits. He rose through the ranks to become a drill instructor at Parris Island and was selected for Officer Candidate School at Quantico, Virginia. He then was assigned to the Second Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. In 1959, Captain Murtha took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown.

He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for Vietnam in 1966-67, receiving the Bronze Star with Combat "V", two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He remained in the Reserves until his retirement." <<


20 posted on 11/19/2005 3:01:52 AM PST by sd-joe
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