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House rejects troop pullout; Dems decry vote (Rep. Ford yells repub's making uncalled for attacks)
AP ^ | November 19, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2005 12:50:54 AM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: Former Military Chick

The dims can dish it out but can't take it. Ex presidents going overseas and cheap shotting the military and the president. Total wusses.


21 posted on 11/19/2005 3:09:35 AM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf. (All religious headdress). The effect will creat a huge domino effect..)
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To: Former Military Chick
"At one point in the emotional debate, Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio, told of a phone call she received from a Marine colonel.

"He asked me to send Congress a message - stay the course. He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message - that cowards cut and run, Marines never do," Schmidt said. Murtha is a 37-year Marine veteran.
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Finally! There was something on TV last night.


I remember Barry Goldwater was a staunch Conservative also until he grew old and became a staunch "Confusative".

I suggest that Murtha is suffering the same malady.



22 posted on 11/19/2005 3:12:21 AM PST by G.Mason (Better stand up and fight GWB ... the enemy is knocking on your door)
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To: Former Military Chick
A very large can of Republican whoop ass was opened up on the demoncrats yesterday. We pulled them along by the short hairs on this one, and they looked like fools.
23 posted on 11/19/2005 3:26:04 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Former Military Chick

One simple question: If Clinton were President and we were fighting in Iraq, would Murtha and his merry band of Liberal pals be waving the white flag?


24 posted on 11/19/2005 3:31:24 AM PST by hershey
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To: Former Military Chick
The following voted for the immediate troop withdrawal resolution:
Three Democrats, Jose Serrano of New York, Robert Wexler of Florida and Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, voted for withdrawal. Six voted present: Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington; Jerrold Nadler, Maurice Hinchey and Major Owens of New York; Michael Capuano of Massachusetts and William Lacy Clay of Missouri.
25 posted on 11/19/2005 3:39:11 AM PST by balticbeau
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To: Former Military Chick
The House voted 403-3

For some reason, I don't think DU is going to be very happy about this, LOL!

26 posted on 11/19/2005 3:42:26 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Lancey Howard

I filled up several days ago at 2.02. Now it is 1.99.


27 posted on 11/19/2005 3:44:23 AM PST by mathluv
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To: balticbeau

If McDermott won't even vote for withdrawal, that says a lot.


28 posted on 11/19/2005 3:46:25 AM PST by mathluv
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To: sd-joe

After watching Murtha yesterday, I came to the conclusion that his recent trip to Iraq has caused him to lose the last few marbles that the DemonRats aren't playing with already. I think that the emotional toll of seeing combat again, visiting Walter Reed has ripped his spine from him.

I don't question the man's service to this country and he has always been a hawk so something had to have changed. I really think he has just snapped. Unfortunately, the ghouls in the media and his party have seized on it, much like they did with that media whore Mother Sheehan.


29 posted on 11/19/2005 3:56:58 AM PST by Uddercha0s
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To: Former Military Chick

How did Murtha vote?

How can we find out who voted for the pullout?

Did any Representatives abstain?

Answers to these questions will come in handy in the future.

And by the way, Murtha was not a hawk as he is represented to be by the "propaganda ministry of the insurgency" (old media).

From Newsmax:
In fact, Murtha began advocating a cut-and-run strategy way back in May 2004 - after U.S. forces had been in Iraq just a little more than a year.

30 posted on 11/19/2005 4:04:57 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: Lancey Howard

You can get a Purple Heart for a sliver. In fact, if you get enough, you can go home. Ask John Kerry.


31 posted on 11/19/2005 4:05:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Lancey Howard

I believe he was in Korea too.


32 posted on 11/19/2005 4:06:12 AM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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To: Former Military Chick

Was the coward Murtha one of the three or did he become a coward again?


33 posted on 11/19/2005 4:07:00 AM PST by John D
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg
Harold Jr. belongs to the most politically corrupt family in the country. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY HIS SOOMTH MOUTH.
34 posted on 11/19/2005 4:15:54 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: cowboyway

I've never heard of Murtha either, but because of his opposition to the war the MSM now refers to him as a "well respected member of Congress." I wonder who coaxed Murtha to make his public announcement, that commie Nancy Pelosi?


35 posted on 11/19/2005 4:18:17 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: balticbeau

Those who voted aye and present are members of the Democratic Socialists of America (Marxists) and the House Progressive Caucus (Marxist).


36 posted on 11/19/2005 4:19:10 AM PST by gaspar
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To: Former Military Chick

"Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn., charged across the chamber's center aisle screaming that Republicans were making uncalled-for personal attacks."

Payback is hell ain't it Harold, you wussie!


37 posted on 11/19/2005 4:20:04 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: balticbeau

Cynthia McKinney is a usual suspect, but at least she had the guts to actually vote "no". The "present" voters represent the worst of the worst of what is wrong with some of the folks in our government.


38 posted on 11/19/2005 4:27:03 AM PST by manwiththehands
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Vote -> http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll608.xml

McKinney, Serrano, Wexler voted NO.

Capuano, Clay, Hinchey, McDermott, Nadler Owens voted PRESENT.

Beauprez, Berman, Boswell, Boyd, Camp, Cunningham, Davis (AL), Flake, Fossella, Gallegly, Hall, Jindal, Kind, LaHood, Miller, Gary, Moran (KS), Northup, Paul, Peterson (PA), Shadegg, Towns, Young (AK) were NOT VOTING

39 posted on 11/19/2005 4:33:45 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Lancey Howard

This is my first post after reading for months. So tell me if I don't do something right.

"Their problem, their nightmare, has been that the economy is roaring..."

This comment is so true. The democrats have a vested interest in things going badly. The sad thing is that many people start believing these things after they have been blindly repeated by CNN, etc. a thousand times.

$2.09 for a gallon of gas is pretty good. According to the Department of Energy's website, the price of a gallon of gas (nationwide average) as of 11-14-05 is $2.296. Stocks are at thier highest level in 4 1/2 years. The price of oil is at a 5-month low, and the GDP in the 3rd quarter was a VERY healthy 3.8%. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the unempoyment rate in September 2005 is lower than the average unemployment rate during all of the "golden" Clinton years (5.1% vs 5.2%). So what gives?

"...the Democrats have been left only with their old dependable fallback position of silently hoping like crazy for more and more filled U.S. military body-bags..."

Just like they were praying for more dead in New Orleans during Katrina. "More dead" translates into "Bush is stupid" in their minds.

"With tonight's vote, the Democrats' harping about the war will ring hollow."

Isn't this exactly the vote that the democrats wanted? They have been saying forever that the American people WANT us to pull out of Iraq. Now, when they get a chance to put their money where their mouth is, they balk.

The media breathlessly reported Congressman Murtha's comments as a call for "immediate" withdrawal. That includes the NYT and AlJazeera, which highlighted his comments on the front page.

How much do you want to bet that now the NYT tries to frame Murtha's comments as a "gradual" withdrawal? Or a withdrawal "over 6-months"? They will do this because they will want to paint the vote last night as not being on Murtha's proposal (as if HIS proposal would have been passed).

One thing I noticed is that the media did everything they could to NOT report the vote. The BBC, as far as I can tell, has NOTHING on their website about it, and CNN buried it in the side bar (with a story about Robert Blake as the main story), while CBS reported it as "House Rejects GOP Withdrawal Plan" (I paraphrased that since the headline is no longer up).

Well, this is my first post. I hope I did it right.

Jim in Chicago
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40 posted on 11/19/2005 4:34:35 AM PST by Chicago_Jim
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